Grand jury declines to charge man for death of alleged robber in SW Houston taqueria shooting

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A follow up from a previous discussion….

“A grand jury declined to file charges against the man who fatally shot an alleged robber at a busy southwest Houston-area taqueria.”

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Grand jury declines to charge man for death of alleged robber in SW Houston taqueria shooting

You might remember the viral video of the incident, where the alleged robber went into the restaurant and demanded money before he was shot. Now, a grand jury has decided not to charge the customer who opened fire.
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Earlier thread on the shooting:

Assess this recent in-the-news defensive shooting incident (Houston)

https://abc13.com/houston-robberies-customer-shoots-suspect-el-ranchito-taqueria-gessner-and-bellaire-southwest-crime/12663715/ The above link is a relatively brief local Houston news report which includes security camera footage with sound, showing an armed robbery in progress and subsequent...
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They lead with "alleged robber" and I suppose since he was not convicted of armed robbery in this case that is technically correct. At least they included a portion of the video for all to see for themselves. In any event thank you for posting this, I was recently wondering what actually happened afterwards. I am glad the customer is not facing charges, but he must deal with the human cost to himself and his family in the aftermath. I can't imagine the impact this would have waiting for some kind of conclusion. At least now he knows this part is done.
 
"Alleged robber?" That just p1$$es me off greatly. He's dead. And he's clearly depicted of actually robbing -- and attempting robbery -- on video. He was a scumbag criminal who failed greatly in his victim selection process and got only what he had coming to him.

Another example of how the mainstream media is corrupt and continuing its attempts to brainwash Americans by painting everyone as a victim while pretending that defensive uses of firearms never actually happen in this country.
 
He got lucky. I can't imagine that the prosecutor wanted him for this and couldn't get it. With that last shot? And flight?

The alleged robber wasn't convicted so that's how they have to report it. Ethically and legally.


"Finally, until a judicial authority has rendered a decision, a suspect or defendant has not been proved guilty of the charges or allegations against him. Not only is it unethical to describe this individual as, say, a 'murderer' or 'embezzler' without the qualification of words like 'accused' and 'alleged,' but such descriptions could turn you into a defendant yourself -- for libel."
 
Old Dog said:
"Alleged robber?" That just p1$$es me off greatly. He's dead. And he's clearly depicted of actually robbing -- and attempting robbery -- on video. Another example of how the mainstream media is corrupt and continuing its attempts to brainwash Americans by painting everyone as a victim while pretending that defensive uses of firearms never actually happen in this country.
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W.E.G. said:
I think they should dig the scumbag up and question him about his intentions so we can get to the bottom of this "alleged" nonsense.
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....and these are the reasons for the word ...."alleged".
unclenunzie said:
They lead with "alleged robber" and I suppose since he was not convicted of armed robbery in this case that is technically correct.
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wayneinFL said:
The alleged robber wasn't convicted so that's how they have to report it. Ethically and legally.
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......Media was only doing what is proper and correct. No corruption there at all. Dig the dead guy up and question him? Wow.....You just can't make this stuff up. Sometimes I believe we are our own worst enemy.
 
He made some bad decisions and probably would be convicted in many places around the Country. God bless Texas, at least until we are overrun by people fleeing pro crime States for safer ones, without changing their voting habits...

Since he died before he got away with anything, wasn't it actually an attempted robbery?
 
Robber's mother....
> "I don’t hate him. I can't hate him. But I want to know why didn’t you stop?"
> "If you had to kill him, I can deal with that. I can come to grips with that.
> He did something wrong. I understand that. But for him to be shot four
> times in the back leaving, and when he falls down, he shoots him four more
> times? You abused him. He was dead already. And that hurt. That hurts."
www.fox26houston.com

Houston taqueria shooting: Mother of taqueria suspect killed by customer in self-defense speaks out

In an ominous phone call Thursday morning hours before the robbery at El Ranchito that would end his life, 30-year-old Eric Eugene Washington promised his mother, Corine Goodman, he would do better.
www.fox26houston.com www.fox26houston.com

Grand Jury view or not, I do think the shooter's got significant trouble ahead.
 
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Milt1 said:
Perhaps they should have said the alleged shooter of the alleged robber. Anyhoo, glad to hear what happened with the grand jury, thanks rabid wombat (alleged OP writer)!
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This is the headline for the original story, 1/6/23. The customer "allegedly" shot a "suspect".

"Taqueria owner still in shock after customer allegedly shoots, kills robbery suspect in SW Houston"​


lemaymiami said:
Remember, although not charged criminally… there’s still an opportunity for the “ victim’s” family to pursue a civil claim…. So the citizen is still in potential jeopardy…
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Yes.

If anyone is thinking of moving to Texas because you can shoot a robber after he no longer poses a threat, divvy up the money and give it back to the victims, and ride off into the sunset before the law gets there, think about this. It's been a year and this guy is not out of the woods yet.

I'm not crying any real tears the robber was shot. But I'm glad I'm not in this guy's shoes. He made some dumb moves. From the time he started fumbling around in his jacket until the time he left, one dumb move after the other.
 
Speedo66 said:
Sometimes after a verdict the Feds don’t like, they’ll bring a person up on charges of civil rights abuse.

”They deprived him of his civil rights when they shot him”, depends on how big the outcry is from the media.

So no, it may not be over, in addition to any civil cases, he has to worry about a Federal indictment.
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I understand the sentiment but I seriously doubt it in this case, for lack of any evidence of bias. I also would venture (in this general gun discussions forum section) that without a criminal indictment/conviction there can't be a civil suit in the state of Texas. But I could be completely wrong about that.
 
unclenunzie said:
I understand the sentiment but I seriously doubt it in this case, for lack of any evidence of bias. I also would venture (in this general gun discussions forum section) that without a criminal indictment/conviction there can't be a civil suit in the state of Texas. But I could be completely wrong about that.
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No, he can still be sued regardless of the findings of the GJ.
 
Speedo66 said:
Sometimes after a verdict the Feds don’t like, they’ll bring a person up on charges of civil rights abuse.
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Not a civilian. The person must have been acting "under the color of law".
unclenunzie said:
I also would venture (in this general gun discussions forum section) that without a criminal indictment/conviction there can't be a civil suit in the state of Texas.
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Not so. And the outcome of a civil suit is based on a preponderance of the evidence (it is at least somwhat more likely), and not beyond any reasonable doubt.

The final shot to the head looked extremely damaging.
 
wayneinFL said:
He got lucky. I can't imagine that the prosecutor wanted him for this and couldn't get it. With that last shot? And flight?
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.38 Special said:
I had assumed the fellow was going to face significant prison time, so am happily surprised. I now assume he's going to lose the civil suit and spend the rest of his life penniless - and I hope to be wrong again.
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No way in Hell. Not in Harris County. Not anywhere in Texas; not even Travis County where Austin is.
 
I am just going to post here this. I am not an attorney but it seems at least good for discussion.



CIVIL PRACTICE AND REMEDIES CODE


TITLE 4. LIABILITY IN TORT


CHAPTER 83. USE OF FORCE OR DEADLY FORCE

Sec. 83.001. CIVIL IMMUNITY. A defendant who uses force or deadly force that is justified under Chapter 9, Penal Code, is immune from civil liability for personal injury or death that results from the defendant's use of force or deadly force, as applicable.

Added by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 235, Sec. 2, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.

Amended by:

Acts 2007, 80th Leg., R.S., Ch. 1 (S.B. 378), Sec. 4, eff. September 1, 2007.
 
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