Holder Tells Congress they want to reinstate the Clinton Gun Ban

[Mike1234567]

One day the greedy controlling sociopaths will push just a little too far. I really don't want to be around when that last straw finally breaks the camel's back.

 

[d2wing]

You have that turned around, Ollie North defended this country.

 

[Jaxondog]

It's beyond me how Mr. Holder still has that job. The people should have banned together and demanded , [ and stayed with it ] his impeachment. He is a complete joke

 

[orionengnr]

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

The NRA and the fact that no standing army can take on 150 million (legal) American gun owners

Where does that number come from? Time after time I have seen/heard/read 80 million gun owners...I'd like to believe that the actual numbers is 150 million, but I will not believe something single source.

 

[crazy4milsurps]

http://www.americanfirearms.org/statistics.php#4

 

[KevininPa]

My sig says....

......my view on the political situation. And it should've been applied many,many years ago. If it would've been applied then, we wouldn't be having these problems today. Now it's all up to us to fix these problems. Now. Do we have the cajones? Oh, BTW, I'm talking about gun control, to stay on topic.

 

[wow6599]

Remember folks (I am trying to stay High Road) this is OUR country, through thick and thin......we can always have what is true and just if we do what we have to.

I will not go in to a diatribe of current American problems, but here is a reminder(s) from one of our founding fathers - http://www.federalbudget.com/biggov.html

 

[Justin]

I've just gone through this thread and deleted a bunch of posts that are off-topic, blatantly in violation of THR's code of conduct, or just outright useless chest thumping and tinfoilhattery.

If you want this thread to remain open, try to keep it civil and on topic, please.

 

[Bojangles7]

Looks like a good reason to buy all I can before next January.

On a serious note, it won't matter who controls the House or the Senate. Obama's already shown a propensity for going around congress to get what he wants.

 

[Yo Mama]

Looks like a good reason to buy all I can before next January.

We didn't learn our lesson last time did we? Can you say increase in prices due to panic buying?

 

[Dean1818]

So let's say for one horrible moment they ban assault rifles again. Will they also ban the ammo, as it's used in hunting rifles also, and any gun can be converted if the money is there. In other words a lot of small companys, will develop a conversion kit for 223, to say 243, with not much engineering genius other than re chambering and changing the barrell and magazine. What would they do with owners of exhisting weapons that fall into the assault weapon catagory, we have seen them turned into 9mm, etc, it would seem that they, "the govt", would want the rifles themselves optimally. And thats never going to happen. There would suddenlly be millions of gun thefts if they tried that. And some states don't keep records on who has what anyway, most of my original guns have been traded of sold off in a 40 year period, I don't have 1 original gun left that I bought. So it would likelly affect "new gun" sales. Most folks already have what they want, or as mentioned have time to purchase them now. Ginesburg said last week, that she was working with and old document, "in a discussion with the Egyption president", and how she envied the fact that the Egyptian constituion, was more modern and up to date than our old thing. In my eyes a supreme court justice should be fired on the spot for eluding to the constitution as out of date.

Its amazing that she did that and that there hasnt been more uproar

 

[Dean1818]

IMO, this is a large portion of what the upcoming Presidential election is all about. SUPREME COURT JUSTICE NOMINATIONS. Obama will get at least one, and maybe two during his next term, and it will change our Constitution and gun rights forever.

You hit the nail on the head!

Lifelong appointments...... There are 3 justices in thier late 80s

 

[gunnutery]

In 6 months, it'll all be forgotten, and John Q. Public will go back to American Idol and Jerry Springer.

I'm affraid that's already happened. I can't speak for the other news sources, but foxnews.com has F&F related info all the time yet there are no uproars from the public aside from the comment section. After Brady repeated the President's "under the radar" comment, there were no yellow flags thrown on the play.

I have a feeling that the nation revolves around TV and entertainment more than anything else. I firmly believe that as long as people have TV, sports and entertainment, nothing will sway us back to where we should be as a nation. Politics and political investigations seem to be just another filler article on your way to find out how Miley Cyrus is messing up her life today.

 

[vito]

Despite Eric Holder, and despite a recent statement indicating that the President would like to erase the 2nd Amendment, almost half the country supports him for re-election. Maybe I need to move back to Texas and hope that the Republic of Texas will come back into existence.

 

[Fremmer]

So holder and obama believe the end justifies the (illegal ) means. Flood mexico with illegal guns so obama has an excuse for preventing law abiding citizens from exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms. The obama tail wags the dog.

 

[Rubikees]

If there is a second term with Holder, then they will put in place a ban.

 

[jaysouth]

The end game for totalatarian fascists like holder/obama is to have us in government camps being rewarded with food if we think correctly.

Control of our guns and health care are the opening shots. This new mandate to force insurance companies to provide birth control 'free' is just one more step to bankrupt all the insurance companies and put all of us on medicaid. They will then have us begging for medical care controlled by the fascists on the left.

 

[xfyrfiter]

People of this country do not realize that these sitting pol's are not your friends. They are in politics for the money and control. The people who control the money control the country. These pol's are all so crooked they can't see straight. The only solution is to VOTE and get rid of all of them. Every one has heard the old adage about politicians and diapers. If you want to keep your guns and your freedom VOTE.

 

[Ky Larry]

Please don't take this the wrong way, but most of you folks are suffering from can't see for shinola. You sound like you just woke up and realized that the current administration has suddenly and without warning decided to take your guns. Folks, they have been trying to disarm us for years. IIRC, Thomas Jefferson said," The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance." We've seen this before and we'll see it again.



WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE.:banghead:

 

[Neverwinter]

Please don't take this the wrong way, but most of you folks are suffering from can't see for shinola. You sound like you just woke up and realized that the current administration has suddenly and without warning decided to take your guns. Folks, they have been trying to disarm us for years. IIRC, Thomas Jefferson said," The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance." We've seen this before and we'll see it again.



WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE.:banghead:

The people who were on the ball about this were warning that it has been ready to fall for years now! I licken it to the people who never look up. Penny on the bet that there that come the second term, there will be a ban.

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[awgrizzly]

The people who were on the ball about this were warning that it has been ready to fall for years now! I licken it to the people who never look up. Penny on the bet that there that come the second term, there will be a ban.

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We have been edging ever so little towards the ruin of the second amendment. And not just by one party. Now with president Obama the gloves are off. I thought the shoe would finally fall in his second term when he didn't have to worry about being reelected. But I'm beginning to fear that he might let lose on us before the election. If he becomes convinced he won't be reelected, his only support reduced to those who want the Constitution to fall, and he has nothing else to lose he may do as much damage as possible before being ousted. When Clinton left office he left the White House in disarray... Obama may leave the country in that condition.

We need to be watchful and give the NRA our full support.

 

[Davek1977]

If there is a second term with Holder, then they will put in place a ban.

They may ATTEMPT to put in place a ban, but without the votes in Congress, which they don't have, its not going to happen. They cant arbitrarily institute a ban just because they may want one

 

[awgrizzly]

They may ATTEMPT to put in place a ban, but without the votes in Congress, which they don't have, its not going to happen. They cant arbitrarily institute a ban just because they may want one

We're not talking legislation here, it's about authoritarian rule. Obama decides to do something, Holder and the DoJ enforce it, the legislature isn't able to agree to fight it, we're stuck with it. One thing I've learned with the current administration, if they decide to break the Constitution and neither the DoJ or congress brings it to the Supreme Court, we can't do much but wait for the next election (and we know how that might work out).

 

[12131]

Originally Posted by Ky Larry View Post
Please don't take this the wrong way, but most of you folks are suffering from can't see for shinola. You sound like you just woke up and realized that the current administration has suddenly and without warning decided to take your guns. Folks, they have been trying to disarm us for years. IIRC, Thomas Jefferson said," The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance." We've seen this before and we'll see it again.



WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE. :banghead:

Yes, tons of us saw it coming for years, but unfortunately, there are also tons of "us" who chose to put their head in the sand. They didn't learn after the Clinton gun ban, and they chose not to learn with Obama.

 

[noshis9s]

I've pretty much learned never to expect anything but complete and utter disappointment from the government.

I have little doubt that will ever change.