New Remington R51 - 3913 killer?

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I just saw mention of Remington's new 9mm R51 compact. Sounds like there is finally a decent non-polymer single stack to carry on where the 3913 left off!

How has Remington pistol quality been?
 
I just looked that up... it looks slick. If it works, it may well be a Shield/XDS killer, too. '14 is going to be interesting, between this and the G42.
 
That is a majorly sexy loping pistol.
As Mat points out, there are other guns though that compete here and have "picked up where the 3919 left off."
Single stack polymer 9mm's have been all the rage for a while now. We have the Kahr P9/CW9, XDS, S&W Shield, Ruger LC9, Beretta Nano, and that's just what I can think of off the top of my head.

I am fascinated by this pistol though. Love the lines and that is a nice unique operation as modern guns go (yes it's old, but no new guns use it).
 
How has pistol quality at Remington been? Well the 1858 Remington is nice...

Just kidding. Looks like a nice pistol, wondering how it shoots. I'd be interested in one for sure as a CC pistol.
 
SA with a grip, rather than thumb, safety? Nice to see innovation and something different, for sure. I'm assuming an aluminum frame, although I can't seem to find that in writing.


Larry
 
Looks very interesting; kind of resembles the old Model 51 in certain ways. A retail price under $400 is also nice, though we'll see how that goes if it proves to be successful once it gets into the mainstream market.
 
Wow, the R-51 does look pretty interesting. As I was reading the firearm blog write up on it I was predicting to myself that the MSRP would be somewhere in the $600 - $700 range, but I guess I was way off. With an MSRP of $389, if the early adopter reports are positive, I may have to give this little pistol a try. I would have guessed that the frame was aluminum just from the appearance of the front strap machining, and the fact that there are grip inserts, but the price seems kind of low for an aluminum framed gun, especially with what appears to be a decent amount of machine work.
 
Remington's R1 is easily the nicest sub-$1000 1911 I've seen, and it's in the $750 range. Beautiful, rich blued looking finish, with a slide as smooth as the one on the Nighthawk I had. Reviews on it say it's a good shooter.

If this R-51 is anything like it, it's going to be a winner. I may pick one up, and not in the market for a pocket 9 at all.
 
Impressive - Remington's New R51 Pistol

Just noticed an earlier there here:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=739403

Mods might want to combine these threads...

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Fully described here:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/01/01/remington-announces-r-51-pistol/

My first impression was "oh god that's ugly". My second impression? Wow.

Single action - no thumb safety. The grip safety (and internal drop safeties) handle it alone.

Streamlined and rounded everywhere.

Cheap! Under $400.

9mm, with .40 coming later.

There's nothing else like it, so far as I know.

Edit: More here:

http://www.gunblast.com/Remington-R51.htm
 
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I find the fact that they're not using the common JMB tilt locking action pretty interesting, I'd like to strip one of these down and see what it looks like inside. The trigger sounds nice too, and it's not polymer!

The low MSRP makes me want to buy one just to check it out, it's definitely different than most of what you see on the market today.
 
I'm excited...definitely want to see if I can get one to review!
 
I'm simultaneously intrigued and repulsed. I like the idea. The blend of modern and vintage aesthetics doesn't strike me well right now but seems like something that might grow on me with time.
 
I think this will be really amazing.

Finally, a single-stack 9mm compact option for the people who hated striker-fired plastic.

1. Metal frame.
2. Detachable grip panels.
3. Single action.
4. No manual safety.

If it works well, it'll sell like hotcakes, and if I can scrape up the money, I'll be one of them.

At $389 MSRP? That's insane! How did they manage that!?!?
 
Locked breech blowback! Apparently the .45 version out performed the 1911 in military tests but was too expensive.

Check out the wiki article on the original 51.

Anyone heard of the Pederson Device?
 
Unfortunately, I see the styling as the guns biggest marketing negative. I suppose I could dream up some snarky remark about it being the illegitimate offspring of a early HK and Beretta by the Coke marketing department, the reality is that the American gun market doesn't much like curvy lines on a gun. If they had followed the trends in the earlier gun it would have less issues.

It's too melded and ray gun, the half grip panels seem a bit cheap, and the wavy line looks like it was lifted from Keltec/Ruger. It was a distraction on them - hey, we can handle flat slab sides, even if SIG can't on the P938.

Unless it has some remarkable ability to consistently put rounds in the ten ring and never ever malfunction, I give it 3-5 years. How it works inside doesn't sell - the American public doesn't buy guns for technical excellence over styling. It has to make the owner look smart and a better being than the next gun owner, it's about the social pecking order. Sorry, Remington, it just proves once again the upper level management is too entrenched and unresponsive to the market. They Don't Get It.

Of course, that might be the hidden agenda - put out something that will force the stock price down to help recalcitrant stockholders to sell while they think they could still make something. It IS an issue right now, sacrifice a pistol for the health of the company . . .
 
I agree it's ugly, but sometimes ugly is OK. I mean, look at glocks... or, more precisely, try to remember how glocks looked to us in the early 1980s, when everything was blued steel and walnut.

There is a lot of merit in a flat, smooth, rounded carry gun with a good trigger and no switches or modes to fuss with. Unless they have some serious bugs in there I think we'll see this as the first of a whole new class of pistols.
 
Wow!! So many thing I love about this! Plus I think it's super attractive.

This may be the pistol that finally lets me start carrying a 9mm. It's basically the same size as my PPK/s which I can carry comfortably always.

Super impressed. Can't believe the cost either! Awesome.
 
Unfortunately, I see the styling as the guns biggest marketing negative. I suppose I could dream up some snarky remark about it being the illegitimate offspring of a early HK and Beretta by the Coke marketing department, the reality is that the American gun market doesn't much like curvy lines on a gun. If they had followed the trends in the earlier gun it would have less issues.

It's too melded and ray gun, the half grip panels seem a bit cheap, and the wavy line looks like it was lifted from Keltec/Ruger. It was a distraction on them - hey, we can handle flat slab sides, even if SIG can't on the P938.

Unless it has some remarkable ability to consistently put rounds in the ten ring and never ever malfunction, I give it 3-5 years. How it works inside doesn't sell - the American public doesn't buy guns for technical excellence over styling. It has to make the owner look smart and a better being than the next gun owner, it's about the social pecking order. Sorry, Remington, it just proves once again the upper level management is too entrenched and unresponsive to the market. They Don't Get It.

Of course, that might be the hidden agenda - put out something that will force the stock price down to help recalcitrant stockholders to sell while they think they could still make something. It IS an issue right now, sacrifice a pistol for the health of the company . . .
^^^ Trying to find the words for the gun's styling, and you nailed it.

Still, at that price - if it's reliable - it's bound to sell. It's the perfect size and weight I'd be looking for in a single stack.
 
I guess beauty's in the eye of the beholder because when I looked at this thing I thought it was one of the best looking pistols I'd seen in a long, long time. It has an almost svelt appearance. Classy, graceful, and elegant.

At the suggested MRSP (and street prices are usually about 15-20% lower than MSRP) all I can say is "Shut up and take my money!". :)
 
I am on the first on the list at my lgs for a standard R51. LGS said it should cost me $351. Now if I can get one in the next 6 months !! I tend to not want to be a test mule for a new firearm but for the cost of this pistol it my be worth try'n it out.

Single action trigger and grip safety is a nice feature. Have ave not heard how heavy the trigger pull is but guess its around 5 to 6lbs.
 
I'm curious to see if they will line the shelves, or be nearly impossible to find.
Seams like Remington Usually puts out a large number of productions, so we will see.
 
Looks like a lower cost alternative to the Kimber Solo, with the added benefit that it's not made by Kimber. :)

Larry
 
Thank you God. Is what i have to say. I've been wanting pistol makers to start doing modern reboots of their classic designs for some time now and Remington goes and does it. And if I can get one for $400 or cheaper I will. I've been sitting on $500 trying to decide if I want another Glock (26 or 27), or a Springfield XD .40 Subcompact, or S&W Shield in .40.

Now I know what I want. So I'll go mosey and get myself a Ruger SR1911 or one of those new GP100 half-shrouded models, and wait till April or May for one of these puppies. Hopefully they'll have a .40 model by then but if not I'll buy the 9mm version.

The biggest seller to me is the MSRP of $389. Kimber could have done that with their Solo probably but they chose not to. Sig could have done that with 938 but they didn't. So now I'll get to own my first Remington handgun in 2014. Hope this model is successful to show the rest in the industry that it is nice to make really expensive guns in a down economy with a shrinking middle class. But those who play to the market of affordable handguns that are of good and excellent quality, will be the ones to inherit the market. You know what Ruger did for the longest time and still sort of does. Ten years ago I didn't know who Ruger was as a company really, just knew at one point my grandpa had a Blackhawk .44 magnum in his collection by them. What I did know at nineteen was that I wanted a S&W 629. Then I turned 21 and only really wanted Ruger products.
 
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