The R51 Remington

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Lol!
I STILL think they could sell some R53s in .45, especially as if they finally have the bugs worked out.....
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All the hype over the 51 proved that the demand is there for something different and historical, Big R just shot themselves in the foot by rushing the product to market and using the buying public as Beta testers......:fire:
 
I have three Remington 51's. Fortunately, they are the originals which are a joy to shoot (except one which has never been shot) and are trouble-free.
Gen. Patton thought so much of his that he tried to shoot an attacking German plane with it. :D

I would love to get my hands on a Model 53. It makes my mouth water just thinking about it.
 
Patocazador said:
I have three Remington 51's. Fortunately, they are the originals which are a joy to shoot (except one which has never been shot) and are trouble-free.
Gen. Patton thought so much of his that he tried to shoot an attacking German plane with it. :D

I would love to get my hands on a Model 53. It makes my mouth water just thinking about it.
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Wow! I just have the one, but it has yet to jam on me- great gun!
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Yep. Remington dropped the ball. They even admitted it, publicly. Then they gave customers options. Those options were expensive for the company. So expensive that Remington will never recoup the losses. I think they handled the situation fairly and openly. Most of us have forgiven Ruger, S&W, Sig, HK etc... every gun company flubbed one or two.

I followed the R51 mess. Read all the reviews. Wanted one anyway. Picked it up in late October 2018 for 268.00 out the door.

Metal framed single stack 9mm +P. Great sights, near perfect trigger, low bore, fits the hand well. Very well. Recoil is way less than expected. 7+1. Way more accurate than it should be for its size. Easy to rack slide. Good looks. Fit/finish as good as anything else. Better than quite a few.

1350 rounds later, good mix of ball and common hp. Not a single fail. Not one. Maybe I lucked out and got a good one, but I dont think so. Buying another soon. My mother wants one because its so easy to rack and the recoil it easy on her hands, at 73 those two factors trump any other consideration.

I hope this doesn't start a heated debate, I'm not trying to. It's just my opinion based soley on my own experiance with my current sample of one.

I'm very pleased with it. It's my opinion that Remington made good on my expectations.

Are there better choices out there? Yes. At that price point? I'm going to vote no.

So, if you've harbored a lingering want for one of them, you just might be happy with it. I am.
 
Tinman357 said:
Yep. Remington dropped the ball. They even admitted it, publicly. Then they gave customers options. Those options were expensive for the company. So expensive that Remington will never recoup the losses. I think they handled the situation fairly and openly. Most of us have forgiven Ruger, S&W, Sig, HK etc... every gun company flubbed one or two.

I followed the R51 mess. Read all the reviews. Wanted one anyway. Picked it up in late October 2018 for 268.00 out the door.

Metal framed single stack 9mm +P. Great sights, near perfect trigger, low bore, fits the hand well. Very well. Recoil is way less than expected. 7+1. Way more accurate than it should be for its size. Easy to rack slide. Good looks. Fit/finish as good as anything else. Better than quite a few.

1350 rounds later, good mix of ball and common hp. Not a single fail. Not one. Maybe I lucked out and got a good one, but I dont think so. Buying another soon. My mother wants one because its so easy to rack and the recoil it easy on her hands, at 73 those two factors trump any other consideration.

I hope this doesn't start a heated debate, I'm not trying to. It's just my opinion based soley on my own experiance with my current sample of one.

I'm very pleased with it. It's my opinion that Remington made good on my expectations.

Are there better choices out there? Yes. At that price point? I'm going to vote no.

So, if you've harbored a lingering want for one of them, you just might be happy with it. I am.
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Im still kinda sorta wanting to pick one up at some point just because I think someday the R51 will be historically infamous....if I stumble across a decent one for $200 ish, lol.

The "elastomer" ball extractor spring and plastic trigger still irk me, though.....
 
IMO Remington has changed itself from one of the best manufacturers of firearms to one of the worst firearms corporations. All because of their addiction to make that last penny. It started with their ruining of the 870 Wingmaster by turning out the Chinese 870 Express. It has continued since then.

I feel about them the same way you would feel about finding out your wife or girlfriend cheated on you. There is NO forgiveness on my part. :fire:
 
NIGHTLORD40K said:
Im still kinda sorta wanting to pick one up at some point just because I think someday the R51 will be historically infamous....if I stumble across a decent one for $200 ish, lol.

The "elastomer" ball extractor spring and plastic trigger still irk me, though.....
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gun.deals lists offerings of the R51 starting from $208.

I had a Gen2 R51 that worked just fine. However, I had difficulty accepting the idea of depending on an "elastomer ball" to power the extractor in a self defense gun.
 
I had a supposed Gen 2 R51 that gave me fits. Went back to Remington 3 times. Twice for the mag release pin backing out. The third time for the same pin backing out BUT the grip safety malfunctioned. Pulled the trigger and nothing. The gun fired as I relaxed my grip.
Remington sent me a “new” one. “New” as in 24,000 less in serial number “new”. “New” as in serial number 11,xxx “new”. Both were made in Charlotte.

Now, do not get me wrong. I do like the gun very much. I was more frustrated than anything else. So far I have 250 rounds through my “new” R51 and have had no issues. I will trust it more when I get another 750 rounds through it.

They are good looking guns and the concept is cool. But, I wouldn’t buy another one.
 
Ascot500 said:
So how did you score one for 268.00 TOD?
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G4G has them for $207 and $15 shipping.
https://www.g4gguns.com/products/handguns-remington-96430-885293964303-322

I've had my R51 for about a year and like it a lot. It did have a disconnector problem right out of the box, caused a dead trigger, but I corrected that without sending it back to Remington. I machined a new trigger to replace the loose plastic one and also a fiber optic front sight while I was at it. The mags seem to be the Achilles heel of the R51. One of my mags has been 100% reliable but the other will occasionally stove-pipe the last live round, maybe once out of every five to ten times loaded. Other than that, mine has been a great shooter for more than 1000 rounds.

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BC17A... if you're willing, what would you charge to make me a trigger and bar like you did for yours? Mine is a good pistol, but i would like a metal trigger.
 
BC17A said:
G4G has them for $207 and $15 shipping.
https://www.g4gguns.com/products/handguns-remington-96430-885293964303-322

I've had my R51 for about a year and like it a lot. It did have a disconnector problem right out of the box, caused a dead trigger, but I corrected that without sending it back to Remington. I machined a new trigger to replace the loose plastic one and also a fiber optic front sight while I was at it. The mags seem to be the Achilles heel of the R51. One of my mags has been 100% reliable but the other will occasionally stove-pipe the last live round, maybe once out of every five to ten times loaded. Other than that, mine has been a great shooter for more than 1000 rounds.

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Ooooohhhh ahhhhhhh!! Nice!

How are your breechblock and locking shelf holding up?
 
Tinman357 said:
BC17A... if you're willing, what would you charge to make me a trigger and bar like you did for yours? Mine is a good pistol, but i would like a metal trigger.
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There's a guy named Cameron over on the R51 Pistol forum that is working on a CNC aluminum replacement trigger. He's already produced threaded barrels for the R51. His website is dangerco.us and his user name on the forum is engineerpower. http://r51pistol.com/profile/?u=955
give him a shout and see when they'll be available.
 
I have a new gen R-51 and love it,,, I am surprised how accurate it is,,, Never had any problems with it....Yes, the recoil is a little stouter than my Beretta 92, however, that is to be expected.. Still enjoy the R51 very much,,, makes a great small carry pistol, and I have been shooting it ever day with no failures,,,, and that is using Winchester Brown Box.
 
BC17A said:
G4G has them for $207 and $15 shipping.
https://www.g4gguns.com/products/handguns-remington-96430-885293964303-322

I've had my R51 for about a year and like it a lot. It did have a disconnector problem right out of the box, caused a dead trigger, but I corrected that without sending it back to Remington. I machined a new trigger to replace the loose plastic one and also a fiber optic front sight while I was at it. The mags seem to be the Achilles heel of the R51. One of my mags has been 100% reliable but the other will occasionally stove-pipe the last live round, maybe once out of every five to ten times loaded. Other than that, mine has been a great shooter for more than 1000 rounds.

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Magazines are usually the weak point of all semi-autos.

As to the trigger modification, as I see it the trigger pin (as well as a number of other pins) are knurled for a press fit in the frame. Did the trigger pin fit back in the frame nice and tight? I've been mulling over doing the same aluminum trigger mod to mine, but the pin issue makes me a bit leery.
 
I wanted to like it and gave it an honest go, twice. Just never could get either to run right. Now even if I had one that was perfect out of the box, my confidence in it is gone, as well as my opinion of Remington. Down to just one remy left and will swap it out for a Mossberg first chance.
 
lysanderxiii said:
Magazines are usually the weak point of all semi-autos.

As to the trigger modification, as I see it the trigger pin (as well as a number of other pins) are knurled for a press fit in the frame. Did the trigger pin fit back in the frame nice and tight? I've been mulling over doing the same aluminum trigger mod to mine, but the pin issue makes me a bit leery.
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I used the original pins and haven't had any issues with them walking. I can't remember the exact round count when I had it apart but it was no more than a few hundred so it's been tested with at least 800 and probably 200 or more of those were +P loads. I did use a small arbor press to remove and install them vs using a hammer/punch which may have helped. There are some guys on the R51 forum who have had pins walk without ever having touched them. A few had to send their pistols back to Remington more than once after new pins did the same.
 
I took the chance last year when they were $199 after rebate. Got a 2nd Gen. The only "R51" issue I had was that the gun will jam every time if you try to insert a full mag with the slide closed (e.g., if you're trying to load 8+1).

If you load the mag into the gun with the slide open or load your mags with one fewer round, it'll run all day long.

Surprisingly accurate. Very comfortable to shoot.

The only reason I rarely shoot it anymore: it has a low bore axis and the corners of the slide are sharp. I have meaty hands; I didn't notice how bad it was slicing up my hand until about 200 rounds in. Once I started feeling it, though, it hurt for days. So now every time I try to shoot it, I flinch. I could probably train that out, but to me it's a range toy, so it hasn't been a priority.
 
They are $270 on Bud's right now. I've always kind of wanted an R51, at that price, I may just be stupid enough to take the plunge.
 
Just ordered one from GunProDeals for $209.00 +14.95 S&H. So for $224.94 I'll give it a try, I was always interested in the Pederson action, and for that price it won't be a bad investment in learning.

Just FYI when you go to GunProDeals it will show $239.00 for the price until you add it into the cart then it will reflect the $209.00 price. CAVEAT: I've never done business with them, so we'll see how they do.

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In my reading in the past it seems like getting past the magazine issues solves a majority of the problems that people were having. Hopefully that is the case and that Remington has resolved most of these magazine issues. I believe there is 3 different magazine follower/spring designs out there for the R51. There are some who have modified the posts on the underside of the follower and have had good results. We'll see, but regardless for $225, it seemed like a no brainer, especially since it is a different design in the world of vanilla striker fired pistols, and kudos to a manufacturer who is trying to bring something different to the market. I just wished it would have got off the ground in 2014 better than it did.
 
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