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I understand the need for lots of SKUs but why confuse their own PC Carbine market? Now they have two separate lines of pistol-caliber carbines. It's kinda weird IMO.Wish it was based more on the PC.
I understand the need for lots of SKUs but why confuse their own PC Carbine market? Now they have two separate lines of pistol-caliber carbines. It's kinda weird IMO.Wish it was based more on the PC.
I find the proportions quite distasteful.
I also have no use for .45 carbines that do not employ some kind of locked breech or delay system to keep port noise down for suppressed use.
My thoughts as well…Forgive me for saying it looks kind of "High Pointy". And, I've been big Ruger fan since I bought my first Standard Model in about 1958.
Agreed. Wish some manufacturers would start innovating with some other means of cycling than blowback.
All that stuff comes at a price. Simple and reliable are hard to beat.Right, a bunch of new PCCs being intro'd and they're all basic blowback, seems lazy when the market's saturated and the Stribog A3 came out with roller delay years ago at a reasonable price.
All that stuff comes at a price. Simple and reliable are hard to beat.
Thank Joe Biden for that. We are in the process of building a new home and the cost has doubled since we started and not because of improvements.Sure but this has a $1000 mslp...
Thank Joe Biden for that. We are in the process of building a new home and the cost has doubled since we started and not because of improvements.
They are different animals. It’s all about the processes to make. Round parts are cheap.Ruger can sell a gas operated 6.5 creedmoor small frame proprietary AR with an adjustable gas regulator for $1000, but it costs $1000 to make a basic blowback 45 acp? Come now.
They are different animals. It’s all about the processes to make. Round parts are cheap.
PCCs with more 'innovative' delay systems are already on the market, have been for ages. They also cost a whole lot more than a PC Carbine or an LC Carbine does. I'd bet that if they thought people would snap up PC9's with roller delayed actions for $3-4K, they'd be cranking them out as fast as they can. If anyone didn't notice, the current PC Carbine MSRP went up from $700-ish to $1K recently too.
You have the right idea but not the nuance down pat just yet.My thoughts as well…
“Hey, let’s hire a couple kids from Hi Point and Keltec and give them some paper and pencils. See what they come up with.”
Lol
If I were smarter I’d start “Boomer Firearms Co.” and design some proper carbines. Make some money before the Boomers all die off…
Not sure where the “let’s make every firearm as tacticool-scary-looking to the sheeple as possible…” philosophy comes from?
Can’t just making a simple, handsome looking carbine?
(Hey, just earning my curmudgeon stripes).
I never thought I'd fall in love with any caliber other than 45. Hadn't done much research on them in fact I thought is was a dead concept since Smith and Wesson dropped the 1006 and its variants. Then 2020 came and I bought a 1911 chambered in 10mm and while still love the 45 I'm really digging the 10mm and I agree this new Pcc would be sweet in 10mm. Handy brush gun or house gun.I'm a big and fat .45 fan but but take all that tacticool stuff away and give me a 10mm and I'm in. I just recently got into 10mm after saying never for years and I am impressed with it's performance, especially on hogs and in the woods...
Such a high tech looking package lobbing big fat bullets.