NYPD and Mossberg

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Though modified for police use, it’s comforting to know that the 590, which is now in use not only by the NYPD, but by hundreds of law enforcement agencies here and abroad and by the U.S. Military, is the same pump action on which every sporting version of the 500 is based.


Uh, sort of. The 590 pump handle has two arms that cycle the round, not one like on the 500. The magazine on the 590 is a lot more flexible in terms of changing it. It seems a bit sturdier overall.

all of the squad cars are currently being retrofitted, because the locking mount had to be modified from the current Ithacas to accept the new Mossbergs...

Are there any issues with the Ithaca 37s (since they'll be flooding the Used market soon ;) )?
 
Uh, sort of. The 590 pump handle has two arms that cycle the round, not one like on the 500. The magazine on the 590 is a lot more flexible in terms of changing it. It seems a bit sturdier overall.

Mine has two action arms. I think all of the 500s have been manufactured with two for quite a few years now.
 
I read in a Mossberg publication that the specs are: 14" barrel, 13 7/8" LOP, 3 dot adjustable night sights, Federal ammunition.
:confused: 14" ????

As far as 37's go I'd like to get one when they hit the market, was a good one for me while I was LEO...

Regards, :)
 
The Stake Out unit used 18" sxs shotguns... at least according to Jeff Cooper.

My battle buddy was NYPS for three years and corrections at Riker's for four before joining the Army. He said some of the patrol cars had shotguns locked between the seats, but he never saw rifles on patrol. The corrections guys had plenty of non-lethal loaded shotguns, though.
 
Sargent Sabre said:
Mine has two action arms. I think all of the 500s have been manufactured with two for quite a few years now.


Same here and for quite a while now.



If they have been good enough for the Marines to carry for 20 odd years, theyll certainly meet my needs, Aluminum reciever or not.:neener:



Btw, at nearly 9lbs, I like the weight of my 590A1.



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With that length of pull and that short of a barrel, I doubt it will be anywhere near 9lbs. My 500 (I know, its a different gun than the 590) doesn't way 8lbs with its 28" barrel and 14" pull (I cut it down .5" to fit me better). It only tips the scales at 9.5 with the rifled barrel, which I doubt the police are getting (and its still a 24", drop a foot off it and it still probably wouldn't hit 9lbs)
 
Scoop:

NYPD:

Mossberg 590
Milspec heavy 14 inch barrel, cylinder bore.
Milspec metal safety and trigger guard.
Fixed 3 dot sights - zeroed @ 25 yards.
Speed Feed reserve ammo stock, 13 inch LOP
 
No more comments?

The new 590 NYPD specs appear to be very sensible to me.
 
Some of my scuba tanks are made of aluminum and they can hold in excess of 5500 psi without rupture.

Armored cars that ferry money to and from banks and ATM machines are also aluminum. The bias against aluminum is way overblown.
 
Yeah aluminum burns. Ask any old VN flight crew. Now about shotguns, not recommended for open ocean voyages. I have carried both Mossberg and Remingtons, among many others. Usually what the govt., the dept. , or the contractor provided. Both are quite good guns, and no one should feel underarmed with either one. There are minor differences, but IMHO the ammo used would make more of a difference that whether it was stuffed into a Mossy or an 870.
 
So how come cops who can't even speak english well get short barrel shotguns and the rest of the masses in restricted states cannot own such weapons of mass destruction????????
 
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Just read the article titled "Mossberg Finds a Home in the Big Apple" writted by J. Guthrie in the "Mossberg 2009 Buyer's Guide & Catalog" this afternoon. Quite interesting. The ole Ithaca M-37s were getting a bit worn and the project to find a suitable replacement has been an on-going process over the last 20yrs or so. Apparently NYPD went to the major shotgun manufacturers to submit designs with their (NYPD's) specific interests in mind. Part of the criteria was the downsizing patrol cars.

A 14" heavy-barrel cylinder-bore has fixed sights (to replicate the Glock's sights) regulated for 25yds. To add on-board ammo, they get the Speedfeed stock. Got the aluminum trigger guard and safety button. Front and rear sling swivels. The "easy clean" mag tube of the 590 family.

Says they started delivery in Feb 2008 and will take a year to get everyone trained on the new pump shotgun.

IMHO, good show. At least it isn't a foreign-made gun they bought. . .
 
I don't see why they need a 14 inch barrel, us civvies have to do with 18in+. You cut it 1/4 in. short and they'll kill your son and wife.
 
tpaw, Bloomberg isn't going to take the police officer's pistol, they are trusted and well trained. We all know that every police officer is an expert with his sidearm and trains with it more than anyone of us dumb civilians on THR. No we don't need guns because we can't be trusted but you become a cop and then you have guaranteed gun ownership. What a load of crap. Seriously, why do they all have a double standard for cops.
 
I don't see why they need a 14 inch barrel, us civvies have to do with 18in+. You cut it 1/4 in. short and they'll kill your son and wife.

According to the article in the Mossberg Annual. It was needed to fit in the new Dodge Chargers they are getting/got.
 
590s are the only shotgun that has passed Army Spec tests if I remember correctly.

Great gun, and what wouldn't I do for a 14inch 590.....:)
 
T191032 said:
Just read the article titled "Mossberg Finds a Home in the Big Apple" writted by J. Guthrie in the "Mossberg 2009 Buyer's Guide & Catalog" this afternoon.

Where did you get a hold of one... or a better question, where can I get one??? I went on Mossberg's and they show the 2008, but even it "isn't available for download"...
 
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