ASM got away with putting "COLT" markings on their stuff until sometime in the 1980's.My cylinder has the crosshatching and the scrollwork but is missing the “Colts” before “patent”. It just says “patent”, strangely.
The two 1851 navys in my profile picture are indeed two of those very guns with colt marked barrels and cylinders!I got it from Dr. Jim Davis that when Uberti supplied the parts for the Colt 2nd gens Uberti sub contracted ASM to supply Colt marked barrels. When Colt ceased production ASM got stuck with a lot of Colt marked barrels so ASM used them on their own guns.
My cylinder has the crosshatching and the scrollwork but is missing the “Colts” before “patent”. It just says “patent”, strangely.
While BPRevolver never mentioned it in any of his postings here and on other forums that I have seen, I think ASM also supplied Colt with the Colt marked cylinders as well.Uberti sub contracted ASM to supply Colt marked barrels.
I was referring to the ASM walker Mr. Kibbey pictured above.They can't legally put Colts Patent on repros. The repros I've seen have Patent No. and a blank spot. Originals had the serial number in the blank spot. Most people read that as Colts Patent No. and wonder why every gun has a different number. It should read as
Colts Patent
No. 12345 or whatever the serial number is.
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Jackrabbit1957,I think those revolvers 1kperday has may be from Armi San Paulo.
I don't have pics of them, and it's just a theory at this point. Of the pistols I worked on none had a manufacturer stamp logo or any other identification marks. The last I worked on had a good factory finish and hadn't been defarbed. The internal parts were rough finished and clunky with a very short arbor. I compared it to both ASM and Uberti horse pistols and it didn't match either one. It tuned up nicely tho and I gave to my brother for Xmas. My gut feeling on these is late 60s to early 70 s production but the maker is a bit of a mystery.
Interesting!I think those revolvers 1kperday has may be from Armi San Paulo. I couldn't find any markings on any of his stuff to confirm or deny my theory. I just worked on a Dragoon a short time ago that was identical to his down to the serial number! This one had an extremely short arbor, 3/8 of an inch, and would have self destructed sooner than later. Again no manufacturers markings to be found.
I agree!I think the only one other than ASM and Uberti that made horse pistols was Palmetto.
The barrels and cylinders were shipped to the US as raw forgings and hadn’t been machined so maybe ASM just pulled a fast one? At some point they were ordered to cease and desist from shipping Colt addressed revolvers.I got it from Dr. Jim Davis that when Uberti supplied the parts for the Colt 2nd gens Uberti sub contracted ASM to supply Colt marked barrels. When Colt ceased production ASM got stuck with a lot of Colt marked barrels so ASM used them on their own guns.
The barrels and cylinders were shipped to the US as raw forgings and hadn’t been machined so maybe ASM just pulled a fast one? At some point they were ordered to cease and desist from shipping Colt addressed revolvers.
I got this in 1972 in my LGS in Marion, Indiana. Sold by Navy Arms as the "Navy Arms Target Model", made by Uberti, and have found no literature about it other to a couple vague references to a Navy Arms Target model .