Say NO to "Gun Snobs"

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I understand the op point. With a title like The High Road, some people would do well in using a little courtesy when addressing a post or poster.

With all due respect, that extends to some of the moderators as well. I have seen some short tempered, (and what I view as disrespectful) comments on some of the threads they have locked. :eek:

As rapidly as this forum is gaining new members (as is all things gun related) I would think this is a good thing and a little patience from the powers that be would go a long way in getting people to return. ;)
 
Do you think we could agree that here in this forum we are allowed to have our opinions and state them as long as we can support that opinion rationally with objective facts? This is to be distinguished from subjective opinions such as what someone finds pretty or what turns someone off at a gut level without any real objective reason.

There is no accounting for taste.
 
68 posts and the OP is making improvements? Actually I have yet to see a "gun buyer" bashed but will admit some posters mercilessly bash brands for their own reasons. THR is a community and as such has widely varying personalities that post here. Good luck with trying to change whole groups of people's behavior. I find that the wealth of knowledge and experience available to be tapped here outweighs the occasional snide remarks about preferred guns or brands.

The truth is that a few firearms manufacturers made or make junk. Harsh comments with little objective reasoning do occur but you can usually smell a post that is not based on reliable fact pretty easily. One good thing about such forums is if junk hits the market, objective scrutiny will expose it.

I agree with growing a thick skin and trust the moderators to moderate.
 
It ought to be a rule here that you cannot comment good or bad unless YOU actually own (or have owned) the particular gun in question. I've always limited my "reviews" to those I've actually spent some time with...
 
NGIB, what if you have shot the thing thousands of times but not owned it?

What if you have handled it and are commenting on its fit and finish, not its accuracy?

I frequently comment on guns I haven't owned, so long as I have some direct personal expereince with them. I'll also comment on what I've read, if it's a technical or historical point and not a matter of opinion.
 
but to out and out state that you bought model X because the model were talking about is complete crap and your an idiot for buying it is outright rude and tasteless especialy after a new gun owner is trying to spread his joy in his or her purchase
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hmmmmm, but....what if the gun he is talking about IS complete crap?

...thicken your skin.
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+1, I'm not real big on being pc, just so no one gets their feelings hurt.

I wish someone had enlightened me before I bought that Bryco 380 auto years ago...:cuss:
 
personaly i find it lacking character and respect to say that someone has bought a "piece of junk" or "garbage gun" just because you personaly prefer something else
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What if a particular gun IS a piece of junk?

What about when someone is asking whether to spend his hard-earned money on it?

If it's BEFORE the purchase, I'd say you're doing someone a favor to tell them what you think, good or bad. Presumably, he can sift through the posts and determine what matters to him.
 
BTW I don't see any reason to tell someone AFTER he buys something.

However, there have been many times in my life when people haven't said what they thought BEFORE I got myself into doo-doo. I wish they had.
 
I'm with Duke of Doubt on this one. I will only comment on a gun that I have actual experience with, and that usually means time behind the trigger (unless commenting on dimensions, grip feel, fit and finish, etc.).

The other thing that gets my goat is the "I know a guy" posts. If I ever make an "I know a guy" post, it is of an incident that I actually witnessed in person, and I can give you the guy's full name and address and the range we were at. A few years ago when I first started carrying I was told by a gun shop employee and about 5 guys milling about the counter that a Glock .40 would blow up in my hand if I bought one. They all knew "a ton of guys" that had KaBooms. So I asked if they ever saw a KaBoom, or if a personal friend ever required medical attention because of one. Silence. In reality, all of their "friends" were unverified posts on the internet, likely a few real incidents passed around the forums ad nauseum.

If you don't have experience, don't say anything. One-line responses to posts along the lines of "I've heard nothing but bad things" serve no purpose.

-Polish
 
There is a difference between

"This is a pretty good gun for the price and my intended usage, and I feel comfortable with it and confident in its abilities"

and

"MY HI-POINT IS JUSS AS GUD AS ANY OF UR &^#*^% $1200 1911S AND U CAN TAKE UR GUN SNOBBERY AND SHOVE IT UP UR A**"

IOW, very few people have problems with somebody buying an "off-brand" as an all-I-can-afford-right-now (though why you wouldn't just pick up a Ruger P-series or a used S&W Model 10 I'll never know), but a lot of people with more experience and less insecurity are going to step in and set the record straight when someone claims that their off-brand gun (which they've fired a whole 16 rounds through) is every bit as good as your stupid brand-name 1911 or your Glock.

There is essentially no difference between that and claiming that PGO shotgun is far superior to a full stock.

We deal in Fact here, not head-patting.
 
However, I do also agree that there is a lot of down-shouting from guys with custom 1911s to the semi-custom crowd. I honestly think that it's because when Kimber broke the market model, a lot of guys who had spent north of $1500 on their pistols suddenly couldn't justify most of the extra cost, and ever since then they have been smearing semi-customs because they really want to believe the extra money is worth it. Like Vincent Vega said; "WOW, that's a good milkshake. Might be the best milkshake I've ever tasted. But it ain't worth $5."
 
I often buy more expensive firearms, then I'm told off by budget buying snobs that I overspent.....
 
Insecurity abides independent of budget.

The guy with the big house tells himself he's smarter than the guy in the little house. The guy with the little house tells himself he's smarter than the guy in the big house. Probably they're both fools.
 
I'll say it. I'm a gun snob.
I like customized and very expensive guns, but I have worked my way to the point where I can afford them and still meet other obligations. Doesn't mean I won't buy a $200 gun if I like it.

OTOH, I am not of the opinion that my choices are perfect for anyone else so I don't "push" guns. I will give my opinion when someone asks on this forum, but I don't really care what other people desire to own. I just don't like it when others try to tell me what I need or don't need.
 
I think it's pretty easy to tell the difference between someone presenting an experienced opinion (that happens to be negative) and someone who is a troll and/or happens to make statements with zero logic.

It's also not that hard to ignore, but I would prefer to see less chest-beating, myself.

BTW, there seems to be something of a negative correlation between brand-related chest-beating and willingness to practice/gain competence. I'm thinking of Clint Smith: "Run the gun you have"...

If people did a dry fire session every time they felt like having a P-ing contest over brands...hmm...
 
I like it here, but there's plenty of times I've felt we should rename it to The High Horse.

*edit* That flows multiple ways. There's the guys who insist you can't survive a thunderstorm without a tricked out AR, and there's guys who demean anyone who isn't shooting a manual action rifle with iron sights, blued steel, and wood stock. Same sort of thing for handguns, shotguns, etc.
 
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