Should A American Citizen With No Disqualifyers Be Able to Board a Train,Bus or Plane With a Gun?
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Are you suggesting that the government should force private companies to allow passengers to carry guns?
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Is that what thr poll voters are saying? I am flabbergasted! You are taking this all too seriously, Ohen.
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The Night Rider
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Bro, I just finished cleaning my house. I'm hanging out with my wife and my cat.
I'm going to be here tomorrow.
And I'm very seriously considering setting my alarm clock for Monday morning just so I can wake up, remember I'm retired and go back to bed.
I can't remember the last time I had a bad day.
No, pilots that are qualified to carry are Federal Flight Deck Officers when they are armed and on the flight deck. Essentially they are federal law enforcement for the airplane.
I used to be a hardcore advocate for make it legal for everyone everywhere. The last few years I’ve seen a lot of examples of citizens making some poor choices, and I am no longer certain.
Last week a citizen without red flags freaked out and killed her Uber driver. I don’t want that to happen on my plane, train or bus.
Last week a citizen without red flags freaked out and killed her Uber driver. I don’t want that to happen on my plane, train or bus.
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Actually, many people are voting "yes" and then are commenting that they would NOT support it in the case of planes. If "planes" was left off the question, then almost everyone would vote "yes."
Someone doesn't need a gun to flip out and kill someone...this is THR, right?
A bullet hole in a plane, while expensive and inconvenient, is not going to spark an explosive decompression as depicted in the movies. The leakage of air caused a bullet hole is less than the waste leakage of the seals and whatnot of the fuselage pressure vessel, let alone the fact that such a hole is much smaller than the outflow valve openings that actually control cabin pressure. If a hole like that were to happen, aside from the event that caused it sparking a reaction from the crew, the hole itself could easily go unnoticed in terms of the effect on pressurization.
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That's not true.
Your Second Amendment rights don't extend to my property.
If I own the plane, train or bus I can restrict as I see fit as long as I do not discriminate based on race, color, religion, sex or national origin.
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https://mythbusters.fandom.com/wiki/Explosive_Decompression_(Myth)
A bullet hole in the airplane cabin doesn't explode the fuselage except in the movies.
The Night Rider
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Because the citizen with no red flags who's willing to commit murder is going to honor the no firearm sign on the Uber?
Are you aware that when you say that you sound just like a grabber
Yeah. THAT isn’t who I want to be, but there are so many examples of people who are just plain stupid with guns right now.
That’s why I am uncomfortably searching for a nuanced stance that supports RKBA while not supporting idiots.
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Right, but we all carry guns because they are the most efficient and effective means of applying a terminal and violent solution. Someone flipping out without a weapon is exciting, but hardly the same level of threat to everyone around.
Right, but we all carry guns because they are the most efficient and effective means of applying a terminal and violent solution. Someone flipping out without a weapon is exciting, but hardly the same level of threat to everyone around.
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Yes, absolutely yes. Even though many here are too young to remember, there was a time when you didn't have to go through any type of security to board an airplane, and firearms were routinely carried in the cabin. All the hand wringing about depressurization from a gun shot is without warrant. A bullet hole, or two, or twenty, won't lead to explosive depressurization.
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How about actually enforcing existing laws and allowing those who haven't broken any laws to continue to practice their second amendment rights
Yeah. THAT isn’t who I want to be, but there are so many examples of people who are just plain stupid with guns right now.
That’s why I am uncomfortably searching for a nuanced stance that supports RKBA while not supporting idiots.
Yeah. THAT isn’t who I want to be, but there are so many examples of people who are just plain stupid with guns right now.
That’s why I am uncomfortably searching for a nuanced stance that supports RKBA while not supporting idiots.
There are 20 million CWP holders in the US and a million Uber drivers. One driver got shot? It's a wonder that's the only one. Many more are murdered by people without permits or killed in car accidents. A couple of months ago in Tampa, a driver was stabbed to death and dismembered by a parolee.
It's not much different than the police brutality stories we keep seeing. It doesn't mean cops are running around trying to shoot innocent people.
The media loves stories like that- that's how they make their living. They have a vested interest in making the world look like a dangerous place, because it keeps our attention, which sells advertising.
It doesn't mean it's representative of anything statistically significant. If the US got the homicide rate down to one person a week, media would be plastering that one guy everywhere.
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I will vote yes as soon as there are no accidental discharges and no lawful gun owner murders anyone for a year.
Until that time my vote stays no.
There is a huge difference between the way it should be and the way it is.
Until that time my vote stays no.
There is a huge difference between the way it should be and the way it is.
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Moral and Value are down the Tube!
The have a Ai airport detection that can determine if you are carrying a gun. Crazy thing is, the creators does not know how the Ai knows. Dr. eric haseltine - look it up! crazy world we are about to venture into
I don't have to let you in my house with a gun, but the private plane company has to let you on their plane with a gun per the 2nd amendment?
I mean, he's got a gun...so he's probably coming in...
Well, I didn't mean to suggest unarmed flipping out...just hoping to bring to mind the various knife, hammer, machete, sword, semi truck, pressure cooker, gain of function bioweapon attacks etc. of the last few decades. Whole Lotta mayhem can be wrought without a gun.
And that's why you should all vote to let me, defjon, carry everywhere at all times. For your protection.
You and me both. That’ll fix lots of problems!
While I was deployed I was very comfortable with open carry- even from partner nations like Macedonia- and people carried a lot more firepower than civilians here can.
There was an expectation of competence with other soldiers that wasn’t always justified but it was generally true. With most of the civilians with guns I’ve encountered, it is the polar opposite.
This is literally the best thing I have read on the matter of second amendment and the activities of either parties platform.
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I mean, I've got one too he's probably notI mean, he's got a gun...so he's probably coming in...
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