tubeshooter
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Wasn't talking to anyone in particular, and we're all free to talk.
Carry on.
Carry on.
And like kale (which could kill my wife because she's on Warfarin) not everyone "needs" a 30-30.Some people like kale. Doesn't make kale the perfect vegetable.
It's a .30-30 thread.
It's not a handload another caliber down to .30-30 level thread.
Question for you then, since you believe love of the .30-30 is "largely emotional" -- did you even read all of the previous posts (including mine, in which I laid out what I think are some logical -- not emotional -- considerations)?It's pretty easy to see that the "love" of the .30-30 is a largely emotional reaction.
Question for you then, since you believe love of the .30-30 is "largely emotional" -- did you even read all of the previous posts (including mine, in which I laid out what I think are some logical -- not emotional -- considerations)?
Yikes! You didn't even answer my questions, or address the point(s) that I was trying to make. You seem to be focused on the hunting aspect, but that's not all we -- and I --- were talking about...I just sold (about 3 months ago) the very first rifle I ever owned, a model 94 in 30-30. I sold it because, although I had shot several deer with it in my early years, I'm now 74 years old and that rifle hadn't been out of the safe in so long I can't actually be certain about the last time I shot it. I realized I likely would never take it hunting again, because there were several other rifle/cartridges in the same safe that would do anything I wanted done, and do it better than the old 30-30. So I sold it to someone who wanted it as soon as I said I would sell it. Emotion, and nostalgia were his reasons, and that was all that kept it in the safe for that long. I KNOW what it was. I also know what it isn't.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to use one. But it is not a perfect rifle.
I kind of also like the age of the 30-30. Shooting the first commercially available smokeless powders cartridge is pretty cool. It falls in the same category for me as 30-06, 45-70, 45 ACP, 45 Colt, 9mm and a few other that are over a century old and still going.
I remember reading that O'Connor said, he knew a guy in, Nevada? Utah?, who had killed 17 Elk with one 20ct box of 30-30 Cartridges!
Little recommendation for cooking KALE.And like kale (which could kill my wife because she's on Warfarin) not everyone "needs" a 30-30.
No it's not for the past, but in the past year, especially last 6 months, it's about the norm, +- a little, and if it's in really good shape, they'll get it IMO! I have one from 77, they're my favorites!Just came from my LGS and saw a very clean Marlin 336 from the mid-'70s.
They are asking an eye-popping $950 for it!
That sure ain't the perfect price...
Thats how I load my my Spitzer Silver Tips...2 shot lever action, of course I have the RN too...you know before them there Evil-utionary Gummy tip bullets were available, There were folks that hunted with Two Shot ‘94s and 336s.
Yep, some handloaders would load a Spitzer type SP and have one round in the chamber and one in the magazine.
it Worked.
When I was in the Service in the early ‘70s we had an NCO that took his privately owned Marlin 336 in .30-30 to rifle ranges. He was a Sinner in that he had a bit of Tasco glass on top of that 336. He would topple knock down/pop up targets all the way out to 300 meters with factory 150grain RN SP ammo.
It was fun to watch, especially after someone new to the unit had to opine that “everyone knows a .30-30 is stretching it at even 150 yards”
Won a fiver off a new E-6 with that attitude.
Yeah I know a Type E kneeling man target is a lot bigger than a white tail’s vital zone, but still….
Yeah it was a different Army back then, too.
-kBob
I reload, so I just used the 3030 data and worked upward till I had what I needed, currently leverevolution bullets from Hornady should have some load data for their Spitzer .Where might one find data on that sort of spitzer point load.