The slide on my M&P is rusting

[Boris bush]

Magic man

I feel your pain! I know a few M&P owners that have a chronic rust problem no matter what they do to it.

I believe you. I seen it myself

 

[Full Metal Jacket]

For the folks that want to flame etc, do you really think I just noticed this when I posted it? Cmon. Life is busy. I finally got around to sharing & I get a bunch of "you haven't cared for the gun"

the one's flaming are clueless to m&p rusting issues. their first instinct is to flame, rather than consider an alternative reason...

 

[ugaarguy]

Magic Man,

As I, and others, have stated, you may have more corrosive sweat, and/or sweat in larger volumes than others. That, combined with possible bad luck on getting what may be gun with a poor finish have combined to give you a serious rust issue. Hence, you've gotten recommendations to perform preventative maintenance more often, and use products which provide very high levels of corrosion resistance. We're not flaming you: we're giving you the information you need to prevent a situation like this from happening again.

 

[jon_in_wv]

All kinds of people make guns Kb.

Here is a nice slideshow..

http://picasaweb.google.com/aplombar...99053061506130

Boris, I hate to disagree with you but some of those are not Kabooms.

They are KKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMSSSSS!!!!!!!

 

[Dnaltrop]

I'll find a better product later, but reading this thread just got me to coat the metal of my M&P with a light sheen of Turtle Car wax while I sat here.

I suggest flat toothpicks with the ends sliced up to get the grooves clean of wax buildup.

I have had a small 1/2" stripe of rust appear on one groove of the barrel, cleared up with a brush, some oil, and about a quarter hour of mild profanity. I'm hoping it was a careless contact with the bathroom floor after a shower.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for any spots.

Conditions, IWB, Constant carry, no undershirt but no direct metal-to-skin contact. If I'm wearing pants, It's on. If I'm not clothed , it's on the belt and draped on a chair near, or on the safe next to the bed.

 

[Full Metal Jacket]

relative's m&p45c is rusting

just cleaned it for him today. he hasn't carried it for very long.

there's rust inside the barrel, outside the barrel, all over the sites, and on the outside of the slide. there's also pitting inside the barrel from the rust. i sold him this gun to him after telling him how great it was, and now i look like a fool--not happy!!


i sold this gun to him after firing only several hundred rounds. it was in mint shape 2 months ago, and he hasn't even fired it himself.


pretty crappy job s&w is doing with finishes if you ask me. i'm going to send it back for him.

not only have i never had one of my pistols rust in my life, i've also never seen any gun rust this fast in my life, and i own several WW surplus pistols

 

[Magic_Man]

I'm a pretty skinny guy I don't sweat that much LOL

S&W is sending me a prepaid Fedex label to send the whole pistol to them. I was told they will have it for 2-4 weeks.

Maybe I should ask for free night sights to be put on since this is my EDC.

 

[larryh1108]

This thread made me pull out my M&P 9c and wipe it down with some oil. No rust. Phew.

 

[Magic_Man]

Well, I was denied on my night sight request.

 

[Kingofthehill]

Magic man

I feel your pain! I know a few M&P owners that have a chronic rust problem no matter what they do to it.

I believe you. I seen it myself

The funniest thing is that as an M&P fan, on A LOT of gun forum's... I haven't heard anything about M&P's rusting, yet everyone here knows "SEVERAl"... hahahaha

it may of happened, it may happen, but man... some people are lying or just want to be part of the torch and pitchfork crowd.

JOe

 

[Joe Demko]

Rust inside the gun? In the bore? Got pics? This sounds like something other than poor finish on a gun. Extremely poor storage habits, maybe. I wipe my M&P down once in a while, and that's it. I leave it in the holster and shove it in a drawer when I take it off. I'm not seeing a corrosion problem at all much less a mess like you describe. Generally, modern guns corrode from fingerprints and smudges. American ammo isn't corrosive. So, corrosion in the bore seems really unlikely unless there is more to the story.

 

[legion3]

The funniest thing is that as an M&P fan, on A LOT of gun forum's... I haven't heard anything about M&P's rusting, yet everyone here knows "SEVERAl"... hahahaha

it may of happened, it may happen, but man... some people are lying or just want to be part of the torch and pitchfork crowd.

Google M&P and rust - plenty of hits at plenty of sites which make it not a pitchfork coincidence.

A few rust examples

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071204131113AA9JlsB

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=279721

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1056997

http://www.nationalgunforum.com/showthread.php?24089-Rust-on-S-amp-W-M-amp-P-pistols

http://www.handgunforum.net/smith-wesson/9299-smith-wesson-m-p-must-read.html

http://mp-pistol.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=19552

 

[Demitrios]

I had an M&P and had the exact same problem as you. I sent it to S&W, they fixed it for free and had it back to me within two weeks. No fuss, no muss.

 

[legion3]

I had an M&P and had the exact same problem as you. I sent it to S&W, they fixed it for free and had it back to me within two weeks. No fuss, no muss.

Did they just clean up the rust and refinish the parts or did they replace the rust affected area's?

 

[rellascout]

So many comments and so much drama over something that simply happens. Rust happens. Some guns of the same make and model will wear differently.

The good thing is that S&W will take care of it make it right and pay shipping both ways. That has always been my experience.

I have a 642 stainless which is one of my summer carries. It shows excessive wear on the side near the grip that rubs my hip. I send it back once every other year and they refinish the spot for free. My sweat is apparently caustic to their coating. Its really not a big deal. It costs me nothing and normally takes about 7 to 10 business days.

Why are we making a bigger deal out of this then it needs to be?

 

[wow6599]

There was a problem with the early models which S&W admitted to, and corrected. It had to do with the prep process for the finish. They replaced the slide with new ones for anyone affected. Any new model shouldn't have this problem.

I took this quote off another website, but I have heard this story from several of my local shops and my FFL. An early problem on a new pistol....and the problem has been taken care of. Why in the world wouldn't you let S&W take care of it? They will pay shipping both ways, probably just replace the slide and barrel, if not evrything but the grip and you may get some free mags and a hat out of it.
Glocks aren't made by the hand of God, as some would have us think. XDs had REAL problems with their finish. M&Ps did, but no longer.

 

[metalman8600]

Since the serial number is on the frame, I wonder if you can buy a newly made slide with the better finish.

 

[Beaux Nehr]

Uh, I carry my blued steel Kimber in South Texas IWB all the time, and my gun has never rusted like that.

Definitely not normal.

 

[legion3]

I've only had the thing for a few months.

The OP seems to suggest this is not

An early problem on a new pistol....and the problem has been taken care of.

It would be helpful to know if this is a newer or older production gun. But threads concerning rust on M&P's seem to run from 2006-2010.

And not having your EDC or any gun for 7-10 business days could be a big deal to some.

 

[Demitrios]

They replaced the whole slide.

 

[Manco]

The funniest thing is that as an M&P fan, on A LOT of gun forum's... I haven't heard anything about M&P's rusting, yet everyone here knows "SEVERAl"... hahahaha

Maybe it's the same several for everybody. It shouldn't be surprising, though, as guns will rust, especially if something went wrong with the treatment/finishing process. Heck, Glocks are one of the very most corrosion-resistant guns around, but I know of several that have rusted, as well (probably from "toxic sweat" or a botched Tenifer treatment). I even posted a link to one such instance earlier in this thread, and could easily find the others I've read about with a search.

it may of happened, it may happen, but man... some people are lying or just want to be part of the torch and pitchfork crowd.

People often overreact and/or lack sufficient perspective on the topic, but I don't think that most of them are lying, as all makes and models of guns will sometimes rust, depending on a variety of factors. There may be bias involved, though, sure.

 

[Confederate]

I have a Beretta 70S that had a problem with rust on just one spot. I tried removing it with BreakFree and soft leather with a pen under it. It just kept coming back, and then others said they had the same problem. Eventually I had the gun hard chromed and the gun has only caused me more problems -- people keep trying to buy it! S&W used to make outstanding pistols. Their 5906s and 659s were incredible, and beautiful. Materials like steel are becoming more expensive and polymers mean greater profits. Craftsmanship also is becoming more difficult to come by, so quality goes down as profits go up.

I don't know why rust would only plague one spot, but having seen it, I know it happens. It didn't happen on S&W's classic revolvers. Refinishing it seems to be the only remedy.