The weirdness that is gun people

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Great post, and so true......

I used to be a great shot, now my eyes are old and I keep trooping on with my milsurps at shorter ranges. Some of those old beaters sure can shoot. I have experienced several "Seals" at the range but they packed up when we showed them what it is all about.....hehe....I have to brag about some of my targets in the hearing of the bubbas with their mega buck sniper rifles.....when I shoot my 90 buck wonders that probably served in more than one war.......also, hehe........chris3
 
Byron Quick said:
I've heard or seen most of this before. Just not from anyone I consider to be a serious shooter.

One thing though, I don't consider myself to be any type of expert in gun law or gun technical lore. But I knew all that.

I don't consider myself to be a great shot. I've much room for improvement with the pistol. Due to decline in vision as I've aged, I doubt I'll ever be as good as I once was with a rifle. Not Nationals caliber by any means but I did shoot Expert in the Army.

I'd probably be ignorant, perhaps I should say more ignorant, of the NFA if I had not been through the process of purchasing NFA items a time or two.

Hey, I was a truck driver in the Army. Can I come shoot free?:neener:
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My Grandpa was a truck driver and mechanic in the Army, 1942-50. Now, this is gonna sound like me bragging on Grandpa, but Daddy told me he'd seen him knock off shell cases from 20 paces with a pistol he took off a German and strike matches with a .22 rifle. Okay, I'm sure we've all heard stories like that, but then I did see him make a shot or two I wouldn't have tried. He passed away nine years ago. Thing is, Daddy told me Grandpa said "never qualify high; it'll get you sent to the worst places". One thing Grandpa did was inspire me to try to be as steady as he was. It's not that I am, or can be, or what, but that I can try to shoot like he did. Style is another matter because everybody's different so it seems we all have our own even within guidelines of a particular discipline. Just my $.02.
 
benEzra said:
Good post!

Someone has said that if all the guys who say they were in Delta were actually in it, it would've been the largest unit in the army...
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I know a guy on another board who really was in the Delta. He says he's met so many purported former SEALS, UDT members, Rangers, Special Forces, etc, that they could have all lined up across the width of Vietnam and walked north.
 
The one that drive me the most crazy is talking about Class 3 weapons.

They are Title 2 weapons.

Geez, that one is as bad as magazines and clips.

AmYisraelChai, where 'bouts in Texas are you? I am in Dallas.
 
Hey now, ive got a slim profile and i wear BDU's! Inf act im wearing 6 color desert pants right now. they are quite comfortable and the pokcets are real nice.

That said, nice...article?

I am guilty of the full auto mishaps, for the most part.
 
Wow that's a lot of negative sh*+

Maybe you guys could pass on your masterful wisdom instead of ragging strangers you have met.
 
Oh shanky, i believe it was all intended as satrical, joking criticism, witnessed by the fact that many of us have admited to doing the things on the list, to an extent.
 
Don't go behind a berm on a cease fire. Yep...thats right. We have a 100, 200, 300 yard line. There is a reason I tell new Rangemasters to take a head count on a cease fire. And yes, a grown man will put an article of clothing on the end of a stick and wave it around from behind a pile of dirt.
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Had that happen one day at the range. Dude goes behind the berm at 100 yards, no one can see him -- RO calls to 'commence fire'.

The berm was nice and high and thick, but I think he had to go change his shorts.

Scary and funny at the same time.:eek:
 
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oh blanky said:
Wow that's a lot of negative sh*+

Maybe you guys could pass on your masterful wisdom instead of ragging strangers you have met.
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Ya missed the humor in it, blanky. About the only thing more enlightening than workin' in a triage area on the graveyard shift is workin' in a gun shop or
range. Oh man! Have I got stories...:rolleyes: :D
 
this bit of satire has raised more questions than laughs.. =(

probably due to my ignorance.

1. If there is no such thing as a Class III license, then why aren't just any FFL allowed to buy/sell autos?

2. what is "bump firing"? I've heard of this many times, but how exactly does one do this? is it similar to slam-firing in my yugo sks?

3. is a minigun that gatling-looking thing that was mounted on a tripod at the last show I did not go to but over whose pictures I pored longingly? does it fire 5.56mm? in which case, could one link up some Wolf and pour it through that puppy?

4. why the hell would anyone want to pay 30k for a lousy banged up old auto that my girlfriend's relatives in bulgaria could (and do) make for about $200 bucks? ok, this last is not really a question.. i suppose one could say the same for mercedes v12, maserati, etc...

okay, now enlighten my feeble mind.
 
silverlance said:
probably due to my ignorance.

1. If there is no such thing as a Class III license, then why aren't just any FFL allowed to buy/sell autos?

2. what is "bump firing"? I've heard of this many times, but how exactly does one do this? is it similar to slam-firing in my yugo sks?

3. is a minigun that gatling-looking thing that was mounted on a tripod at the last show I did not go to but over whose pictures I pored longingly? does it fire 5.56mm? in which case, could one link up some Wolf and pour it through that puppy?

4. why the hell would anyone want to pay 30k for a lousy banged up old auto that my girlfriend's relatives in bulgaria could (and do) make for about $200 bucks? ok, this last is not really a question.. i suppose one could say the same for mercedes v12, maserati, etc...

okay, now enlighten my feeble mind.
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1- I hope somebody can tell us.

2- "Bump firing" is what I've also heard referred to as "milking the trigger". It gives the trigger two pulls under the same recoil, but it is in no way full-auto. FWIW, I had my Garand do this with me once. It's a surprise when it happens, but I've yet to try to make it do it on purpose.

3- The Mini gun is the Gatling-looking job and it's made by GE AFAIK. There's a 5.56 version and a 20mm version... that I know of. I'm not sure what to tell you about the belted ammo for the 5.56 version.

4- I'm not gonna pay 30K for whatever it is you're talking about.
 
silverlance said:
3. is a minigun that gatling-looking thing that was mounted on a tripod at the last show I did not go to but over whose pictures I pored longingly? does it fire 5.56mm? in which case, could one link up some Wolf and pour it through that puppy?
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Think Terminator 2 and Predator :D
 
silverlance said:
probably due to my ignorance.

1. If there is no such thing as a Class III license, then why aren't just any FFL allowed to buy/sell autos?

2. what is "bump firing"? I've heard of this many times, but how exactly does one do this? is it similar to slam-firing in my yugo sks?

3. is a minigun that gatling-looking thing that was mounted on a tripod at the last show I did not go to but over whose pictures I pored longingly? does it fire 5.56mm? in which case, could one link up some Wolf and pour it through that puppy?

4. why the hell would anyone want to pay 30k for a lousy banged up old auto that my girlfriend's relatives in bulgaria could (and do) make for about $200 bucks? ok, this last is not really a question.. i suppose one could say the same for mercedes v12, maserati, etc...

okay, now enlighten my feeble mind.
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Just humor folks.

I am and was clear it is talking about people who claim to have a real id card that allows them to purchase F/A

bump firing is a way of palpitating the trigger to give it the effect of slow full auto. This is also what Hellfire type devices do.

The Term Mini gun generally referes to a GE rotory barreled cannon. The most common caliber is 7.62

Would you like to have 30K in oil stocks right now? Full autos are not only fun but an appreciating asset that makes for about as sound as investment as any right now.
 
>Just humor folks.

>I am and was clear it is talking about people who claim to have a real id card >that allows them to purchase F/A

Ah now I get it. Your right, funny as heck!
 
Bump firing is when you basically hook your finger in the trigger guard and jerk or move the rifle back and forth to fire rapidly. Someone posted pictures recently showing a guy with his finger hooked in the trigger well with his thumb hooked in his pocket or belt. The recoil of the gun firing helped move the rifle back and forth actuating the trigger repeatedly with his hand remaining basically stationary.

I have milked the trigger before. I don't think that is the same thing.
 
In my experience, there's a pretty easy way to figure out who was SF and who wasn't. If they talk about it, they weren't SF. Only met a real SEAL once. No mistaking them for the phonies. This guy could kill you with his eyes.

my son-in-law was a Ranger, 10th Mountain. Was in Somolia. Never says much but he's got the base from an 81mm with his name inscribed, from the guys in his command. Thing he really liked was that, once he got his tabs, even the brass cut him a lot of slack
 
HAHAHAHAHAHA.. THIS IS GREAT!!!

WAIT WAIT!! I GOT ONE!!

so this guy i knew in highschool who was a big time football player told me he was leaving to be a NAVY SEAL,.. followed by how cool he was, how many chicks he could get and how nerdy me and my friends were gonna be. lol.. anyway...

about 4 years later, i'm at my senior yr at UW. i just got a great job, driving a 40k bmw, i had PRK lasik eye surgery done corrected to 20/20, and i was getting on ft lewis (army base near Tacoma WA) and GUESS WHO WAS THE LITTLE E-2 MP CHECKING IDS!!!

SAME F'IN GUY!!!

not dissing on mp's or anything, i think they're cool.. but hell, don't lie ..

navy seals do "different" things than check ID's at a stand booth
 
On the subject of NFA, some enlightenment:

There is such a thing as a Class III, but it is not what most people think it is. A Class III is a type of SOT, or Special Occupational Tax, which an FFL pays in addition to the necessary FFL fees. There are three classes of SOT. They are Class I, an importer of NFA weapons, a Class II, or manufacturer of NFA weapons, and a Class III, or dealer in NFA weapons. As the origional poster said, a Class III is NOT some driver's license like piece of paper that entitles the bearer to buy machineguns.

An FFL, or Federal Firearms License, can be one of nine types. Type 1 is a Dealer in Firearms. Type 2 is a Pawnbroker. Type 3 is a Collector of Curio & Relics, or C&R. Type 6 is a Manufacturer of Ammunition For Firearms. Type 7 is a Manufacturer of Firearms. Type 8 is an Importer of Firearms. Type 9 is a Dealer in Destructive Devices. Type 10 is a Manufacturer of Destructive Devices. Type 11 is an Importer of Destructive Devices.

The weapons themselves are most properly referred to as Title 2 weapons. Title 1 weapons being your usual, run-of-the-mill firearms not subject to the most stringent restrictions that full-auto, short-barrelled rifles, short-barrelled shotguns, suppressors, Destructive Devices, or those weapons deemed AOW's, or Any Other Weapons. Those six types of weapons are Title 2 firearms.

So, a Type 1 FFL can pay for a Class III SOT, which entitles him to sell Title 2 weapons in addition to Title 1 weapons.
 
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