What Drives Your Decision To Carry Daily.

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This question came up yesterday on a different forum. I really feel like the person who asked at the other forum feels that carrying a gun every single day is a little bit ridiculous but it doesn't make the question any less valid.

I've said this multiple times but it is an iron clad rule for me that if I'm not in bed or the shower (basically if I'm dressed) I have a gun on my person but when the question was asked I really stopped and thought about how I would explain myself if I was honestly asked.

This is the answer I gave there:

I never really did any soul-searching or questioning the odds. I bought a gun the day I got out of the army and I started to carry it.

My wife (then fiance) was really freaked out by guns so before we got married I got rid of all of mine and for the first 10 years we were married the only gun that we had in our house was an NEF .22 revolver that we kept in a lock box in the garage. I don't think we even had any ammunition for it.

In 2006 two incidents happened. First somebody put a Drano bomb on our neighbor's front porch. When it went off it rattled windows in our house across the street. The second was (I suspect) an attempted home invasion on our house.

My wife and I sat down and had a discussion and we bought a gun a RIA 1911.

Several months later my wife was involved in a road-rage incident that absolutely terrified her. She came home and when she got out of the car she was shaking and she told me that in the middle of it she realized that if that person had got out of the car because of her disabilities there was nothing she could have done to defend herself. She said to me "I want a gun and I want to get my permit." We took the class together we got our permits at the same time and we both started carrying.

Shortly after that Colorado voted to legalize weed and the City of Colorado Springs began to change for the worse.

Colorado Springs is overrun with homeless people. Between the two of us my wife and I knew four people who were murdered either by homeless people or in the middle of drug deals that went bad. When I say knew I mean people who were actually part of our lives, not random people we knew by name. We also knew 2 people who committed murder and did time for it. We also have an ex-SIL who is a suspect in several murders. The reason I mention this is because murder is not an abstract concept to me. It's something that has impacted my life multiple times and because of that it's something that informs my world view. I know too many people that it's happened to. I know too many people that have done it. I have no problem believing that it could happen to me.

There is cartel activity in Colorado Springs because they're growing weed here and exporting it out of the state which I guess is easier than importing it across the border into America.

Carjackings are becoming a nightly occurrence. Multiple convenience store robberies are becoming a nightly occurrence. A week ago Saturday some Maniac walked down Wasatch street in downtown Colorado Springs randomly shooting at people. I think he killed 3.

I think a month ago another random maniac walked down a hiking trail from Cimarron Street to America the Beautiful Park and stabbed eight people apparently at randoml. I think he killed one of them. The have been three other active shooter events in Colorado Springs since 2007.

I've been the victim of an attempted robbery right outside my home that I was able to stop because I had a gun.

As far as we know it's never happened to us but we have a neighbor down at the end of the hall who says that she's been sitting in her living room late at night and watched somebody try to to turn her front door knob.

I've been working nights since roughly 2003 and I see what kind of people wander around this town at night. Even before I started doing security I worked in a machine shop and I would come home at 3 in the morning and my neighborhood looked like a scene out of The Walking Dead. I'd see homeless people just wandering through the neighborhood every night.

I do not leave my home without a gun under any circumstances. Not even to take out the trash or check the mail
 
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i can answer trunk monkey’s excellent post by explaining what drives me not to ccw: my personal affairs take me onto military installations regularly, meaning that when i am out and about i sadly cannot ccw on that day.

otherwise i pocket ccw religiously. twice i’ve had to ready my ccw when physically confronted by aggressive bad guys outside my home, and i’ve dispatched poisonous snakes that came way too close for comfort when i was alone on trails far away from help. like armoredman, my former work took me into prisons, on the good side of the bars. i had seen bad guys and stupid guys, but it wasn’t until i dealt with a convicted child killer that i saw satan walking the earth. so, yeah a ccw is a thing for me.
 
Statistically, I lead a fairly safe life. I don't go to Stupid Places, and I don't do Stupid Things. I work during the day. I'm home at night, and rarely go out. Nonetheless, I carry every day and in every place that I can. Why? Because I'm far more concerned about the stakes than the odds. The odds that I'll ever need my pistol are extremely low. The stakes are extremely high. They include my life (for starters), and I'm the primary breadwinner in this house. I have a wife and daughter whom I love dearly, and who depend on me financially.
 
What Drives Your Decision To Carry Daily.
If I find myself thrust into a potentially deadly situation, I want to have a reasonable possibility of having some say in the outcome of same.

Summary: I would rather have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it.

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Winter'75 while working the graveyard shift at a year-old VaBch oceanfront resort hotel 2 fellows came in at ~1:30am, took control of me and robbed the place. To this day I can recall the feeling of utter helplessness. I was very lucky ... the guys only wanted the money and did not harm me (at about that time, another 11p-7a hotel employee in the area was not so lucky). They could have chosen to injure or kill me.

I intend to never feel that way again.
 
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I live in a county outside of St. Louis; little crime, very peaceful - we love living there. When I have to drive thru North St. Louis County, there is a strange but very distinct “boundary” that you cross into Third World Land where human behavior seems to deteriorate to a primal form - lots of hate, lots of the entitlement mentality (you have it and I am going to take it) with lots of aggression.
I CCW religiously on these drives; I have to know that I can be in the fight if it comes my way - I cannot be weaponless, I have to have that chance. Being weaponless against that primal aggression has to be a horribly helpless and sickening feeling; I may not win but I have to have that chance (at least in my mind).
 
My community is an oasis in the middle of some very unsavory areas. It is known in Ohio as a very wealthy town (I don’t live in that part) housing the governor’s mansion and many big name titans of industry. It borders a city with one of the highest crime rates in America....1 in 16 I believe. However, my neighbors put their heads in the sand. Residents here are the logical target. That being said, we have wonderful police within about a minute of any calls.
 
What pushed me to carry daily were news reports of the shooting and beating of Arizona State Trooper Edward Andersson in January 2017. This event prompted me to carry full time rather than part-time because I couldn't shake the dread I'd feel if I were put in the place of the good samaritan motorist that shot and killed the trooper's armed attacker.

I also got interested in accumulating Smith and Wesson Gen3 automatics so I had to show my wife a real need to buy a bigger gun safe, more ammo, and spending more time at the range. I carried on and off duty for over 33 years so EDC feel natural for me. All I did was to change from OWB to IWB and my personal rules of engagement now that I no longer have to run toward non-life-threatening trouble and involve myself in the chaos.
 
Generally speaking I believe our region is a pretty safe one, despite some folks worrying about downtown Syracuse gangs...which just beat up on each other. I can not carry at work, and as someone else mentioned, knowing and being smart enough to know when and where not to be accounts for a lot. That said, more frequently I will carry when I am out about on errands, and whenever/wherever we go overnight. I am much more inclined to carry when my wife is with me.
 
This question came up yesterday on a different forum. I really feel like the person who asked at the other forum feels that carrying a gun every single day is a little bit ridiculous but it doesn't make the question any less valid.

I've said this multiple times but it is an iron clad rule for me that if I'm not in bed or the shower (basically if I'm dressed) I have a gun on my person but when the question was asked I really stopped and thought about how I would explain myself if I was honestly asked.

This is the answer I gave there:

I never really did any soul-searching or questioning the odds. I bought a gun the day I got out of the army and I started to carry it.

My wife (then fiance) was really freaked out by guns so before we got married I got rid of all of mine and for the first 10 years we were married the only gun that we had in our house was an NEF .22 revolver that we kept in a lock box in the garage. I don't think we even had any ammunition for it.

In 2006 two incidents happened. First somebody put a Drano bomb on our neighbor's front porch. When it went off it rattled windows in our house across the street. The second was (I suspect) an attempted home invasion on our house.

My wife and I sat down and had a discussion and we bought a gun a RIA 1911.

Several months later my wife was involved in a road-rage incident that absolutely terrified her. She came home and when she got out of the car she was shaking and she told me that in the middle of it she realized that if that person had got out of the car because of her disabilities there was nothing she could have done to defend herself. She said to me "I want a gun and I want to get my permit." We took the class together we got our permits at the same time and we both started carrying.

Shortly after that Colorado voted to legalize weed and the City of Colorado Springs began to change for the worse.

Colorado Springs is overrun with homeless people. Between the two of us my wife and I knew four people who were murdered either by homeless people or in the middle of drug deals that went bad. When I say knew I mean people who were actually part of our lives, not random people we knew by name. We also knew 2 people who committed murder and did time for it. We also have an ex-SIL who is a suspect in several murders. The reason I mention this is because murder is not an abstract concept to me. It's something that has impacted my life multiple times and because of that it's something that informs my world view. I know too many people that it's happened to. I know too many people that have done it. I have no problem believing that it could happen to me.

There is cartel activity in Colorado Springs because they're growing weed here and exporting it out of the state which I guess is easier than importing it across the border into America.

Carjackings are becoming a nightly occurrence. Multiple convenience store robberies are becoming a nightly occurrence. A week ago Saturday some Maniac walked down Wasatch street in downtown Colorado Springs randomly shooting at people. I think he killed 3.

I think a month ago another random maniac walked down a hiking trail from Cimarron Street to America the Beautiful Park and stabbed eight people apparently at randoml. I think he killed one of them. The have been three other active shooter events in Colorado Springs since 2007.

I've been the victim of an attempted robbery right outside my home that I was able to stop because I had a gun.

As far as we know it's never happened to us but we have a neighbor down at the end of the hall who says that she's been sitting in her living room late at night and watched somebody try to to turn her front door knob.

I've been working nights since roughly 2003 and I see what kind of people wander around this town at night. Even before I started doing security I worked in a machine shop and I would come home at 3 in the morning and my neighborhood looked like a scene out of The Walking Dead. I'd see homeless people just wandering through the neighborhood every night.

I do not leave my home without a gun under any circumstances. Not even to take out the trash or check the mail
to hear your story, I can only imagine the sorrow you must hold living with and near this crime. Personally I would move far away as soon as possible.
Until then carry an UZI
 
My father was a competitive shooter back in an era where that was even less common than it is now (60’s, 70’s and 80’s). He helped start IPSC in our area (So California/Los Angeles). Some families hiked or played tennis, we shot. So I’ve always been exposed to firearms. It wasn’t something I had to be introduced to later in life.

When I was 11 or 12 we had a an attempted home invasion by three guys.

I grew up in a not so great area where I saw how guns both hurt and helped people in either the wrong or the right hands. Sometimes I was apart of the situation and sometimes I just knew the people involved. Still a lesson reinforced over and over again, be armed. A gun in your house isn’t much good to you if you’re across town.

I’ve been in EMS is some form or capacity for 22 years. So I’ve had a front row seat to see how criminals negatively affect or end people’s lives and I get to see how people step up and take care of themselves and their friends and family or how they get run over.
 
Being at the "mercy" (whim) of criminals/psychos would suck, I find the thought unacceptable, so I carry.
Going someplace for "entertainment" that would make me disarmed opens the potential for the unacceptable (above) so I avoid that.
 
I feel fortunate to not have experienced everything stated earlier, I carry to protect my family and myself. Watching the news will scare anyone and I've found that not everything is reported.
 
What Drives Your Decision To Carry Daily.

Cuz you never know when you may need it and altho I have great respect for LEO, they won't be 'there' when you may need personal protection.

BUT I am a 'me and mine' kinda guy. If I hear 'shots', I will NOT be running toward that. I will go other way, with me and mine, leave or shelter with me doing my best to protect me and mine if the 'threat' comes around..

Why I EDC, even at home..
 
My introduction to guns and carry was gradual. I grew up without a father, and my mother, though pro-gun, did not think she could safely teach me to use firearms, though she made sure I knew Cooper's four rules and our own family's rules for using weapons for defense paraphrased: never pull a weapon unless you are going to use it, never use it unless you are trying to kill. My Uncle John had a CCW, but lived in far away California, once while visiting him, he took me out in the desert and let me shoot his .38 and a Ruger MK2. I decided I wanted to be a gun owner and bought one as soon as I was of age and could afford one. I poured over gun rags and an NRA safety booklet from a course that my friend's step dad took and left laying around where we could find it, trying to learn as much as I could on my own. At the time there was one outdoor range in the local area and very few people went to it. I started visiting as time and money allowed, but was trying to learn to shoot on my own with no real guidance. Eventually some of the regular older gentlemen that were at the range every day kind of took me under their wing and gave me hints from time to time.

However guns still seemed exotic and uncommon and the idea of carrying one on me didn't seem normal, it was something for paranoid survivalists, not regular people.

Honestly for me it was this website and the Firing Line. Though I do not post as much or even visit as often as I used to it was THR and TFL that introduced me to the "gun community" outside the old codgers I would meet at our not very busy local county run range and make CCW seem normal. I remember several threads posted about people applying for their CCW and the process in their part of the country as well as threads whenever a new state would become shall issue. Every post I read slowly brought me around to the idea that carrying a firearm is a Right, and exercising your rights does not make you strange. So eventually I saved up the money for an H&K USP 45 compact, (the AWB was still in full swing and H&K was the hot gun manufacturer at the time) and took a safety course at a gun show, then got my permit. I carry everywhere it is legal now, not because I am afraid of crime, but because I have had times when I needed emergency supplies and they were not available. I also carry a tourniquet (needed one of those once and didn't have one available too) wear a seat belt, and have fire extinguishers handy.

Oh yeah, my local sleepy range moved to a new location so they could expand because a LOT of other people of my generation and younger ones as well, also discovered guns on the internet and are shooting more and more. I see them every time I go, and now that I am approaching old codger status I will offer hints to the newbies from time to time. My area now has four times as many gun shops, two more outdoor ranges, 2 indoor ranges, and IDPA, USPSA, Carbine, and steel matches every weekend that anyone can attend. All of that was driven by internet sites like this one, which is why the gun grabbers hate gun websites so much.
 
Well, I really hope you've learned better than that

That was a paraphrase., my post was long enough as it was.

There was a lot of other moral instruction as well, and at the end of the day, with a good understanding of use of force laws, it is a good way to understand the seriousness of introducing a deadly weapon into any altercation and the mindset necessary when the use of one is warranted. A gun is only used at the gravest extreme, it is not used to wound or threaten, or make a point in an argument. It is there to end a life and should not be removed from the holster or even referred to unless you are at the point where lethal force is not only legal, but absolutely necessary. That is the essence of the rather pithy phrase my mother taught me, and she made sure I understood that meaning as well.
 
For me, it's the training I have. I have continual training in active killer events and carry a firearm professionally for such events. I don't think my conscious could take it if I were in such an event on my personal time and did nothing because I was not armed. I don't ever want to not have a choice to interfere effectively in that type of situation.
 
The same reason I have a fire extinguisher, hope to never have to use it. I guess the only difference is I train more frequently with my guns (at least monthly) than I do a fire extinguisher. That and I won't ever pull my gun unless I feel I or my loved ones are in grave danger and I plan on using it. When I pull it, it's because I feel the situation has become lethal and I will use it, I won't pull it to scare.
 
I live in a county outside of St. Louis; little crime, very peaceful - we love living there. When I have to drive thru North St. Louis County, there is a strange but very distinct “boundary” that you cross into Third World Land where human behavior seems to deteriorate to a primal form - lots of hate, lots of the entitlement mentality (you have it and I am going to take it) with lots of aggression.
I CCW religiously on these drives; I have to know that I can be in the fight if it comes my way - I cannot be weaponless, I have to have that chance. Being weaponless against that primal aggression has to be a horribly helpless and sickening feeling; I may not win but I have to have that chance (at least in my mind).
Took the words out of my mouth. I also live outside of St. Louis. There are some areas you just don’t go to but sometimes you have to. The crazy is moving around so it’s better to be safe than sorry.
 
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