Wife/Girlfriend is ANTI! What to do??

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"Get out now. This isn't a gun issue. It's control issue. As long as you were renting she figured she could mold you into her image when you got married. Now that you have decided to buy your own she's figured there's no chance in changing you. That's why she's livid."


+ infinity. I've seen enough "King of Queens" to know what a controlling woman sounds like. I suggest you move like you have a cheerleader in your hottub & your mother at the front door.:D

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Get out now. This isn't a gun issue. It's control issue. As long as you were renting she figured she could mold you into her image when you got married. Now that you have decided to buy your own she's figured there's no chance in changing you. That's why she's livid.

Another X Infinity. I see it with wives and their husband who fly small airplanes or want to fly. When the wife is against something the like, they are miserable. My PREVIOUS wife was like that.
 
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In just a few months, I will have been married to the same woman for 13 years.

Let me say that however your chosen, intended-one is acting right now, right now is the absolute most polite she will be.

Dating or being engaged means people still act polite.

Politeness goes out the window once the ring goes on and vows are said.

No matter how good a marriage might be, this is the simple reality.

While dating and engaged, people are polite.

Once married, polite doesn't exist anymore.

And be very clear on what I'm saying.

I am NOT saying that once they're married that spouses always seek to anger each other.

I AM saying that spouses WILL say EXACTLY what they are thinking to each other after they are married, with no considerations of "polite."

Let me put it this way.

Think of the thing about her that annoys you the most right now.

Now, imagine you two are married, and then multiply that annoying thing by about 1000%.

Only you can't go back to YOUR apartment and escape it at the end of the night.


If the gun thing seems like a potential deal-breaker now, then it almost certainly is a deal-breaker.


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For what it's worth, I echo the thoughts of many on this forum. I may have a few years of experience on some of them so here goes: Run, run, run, don't walk away from this woman. Any body who is rabidly anti gun is running on emotion and can never be reasoned with, don't try, you'll just doom yourself to a life of frustration
LISTEN to this advice....get rid of her now! Do you not see the bitchy " I am in charge" personality now? Who the heck is she to be "livid"? Do you not work and make your own decisions? Get out now....avoid the following that you will get from her...A) using sex to control/punish you B) blaming you for her unhappiness C) controlling your hobbies/activities D) controlling your money E) using her family to control you....the list goes on and on. Smell the coffee, man! Find a partner who enjoys similar activities as you.
 
Go back to page 1 and read JDKELLEY's post. Man he hit it right on the head. At this stage in your relationship she is trying to bend over backward to "make this work". The fact that she stands firm on this issues is a pretty good indicator it ain't gonna get any better. Quoting Harry Calihan "you have a decision to make, do you feel lucky....well do ya punk".
 
Respect

I think it boils down to simple respect. You respect her opinions, views and choices then it has to be reciprocated. No relationship will work without that. Of course I took the easy way and married a West Texas country girl who was an MP in the 82nd Abn amd then a State Trooper.:D
 
Its like a good friend of mine always tells me...

"Ditch the B****, let's go shootin"

Words to live by. ;)
 
Get out now. This isn't a gun issue. It's control issue. As long as you were renting she figured she could mold you into her image when you got married. Now that you have decided to buy your own she's figured there's no chance in changing you. That's why she's livid.
Another "+1" to the above. This is a symptom of a very fundamental difference.

There are three reasons most marriages fail:

1. HE thinks she won't change - and she does.
2. SHE thinks he will change - and he doesn't.
3. Money

This sounds like #2 . . . if you change, you'll be miserable, and if you don't she'll MAKE you miserable. Lose-lose situation.

Think with your head, not your heart . . . or something else.
 
I disagree with the "run like hell" posts I'm reading here. I'm assuming you really like this person, and want the relationship to work out. In that case I recommend you try to change her mind and/or come to an agreement that she cannot act like a dictator in your relationship. Only you can decide what tradeoffs you're willing to make, and how much patience you're willing to exercise in order to make your relationship work.

FWIW, I got into guns well after I was married. It was then that I found out my wife was an anti. Like the majority of people (by my estimate), my wife absorbed years of mass-media, politicians, and school teachers telling her that guns were evil. It's not easy to quickly undo years of dogmatic brainwashing! Long story short: my wife went from livid when I bought my first gun a couple years ago, to very accepting today. She is not a gun nut like me, but she doesn't mind my obsession. She'll let me explain how my guns work, handle them with my supervison, and has agreed to go to the range with me. Maybe I'm just lucky to have an understanding wife, or maybe whatever approach I used to soften her anti-stance was the key.

Give up if you want, but I don't think that's the only option.
 
Get out now. This isn't a gun issue. It's control issue.

Perfectly stated. Can't improve on either the thought behind this statement or the way it is phrased.

It is certainly possible to have an outcome like Live Free or Die had, but he is the exception. Don't count on it.
 
Marriage with the woman in question or any marriage at all is like playing Russian Roulette.:uhoh: That's why I'm staying single forever. "Freedom Forever".
 
In addition to all of the above you may want to think about the future, if you do marry her and she is still anti-gun what will happen when you want to take the kid(s) shooting? maybe she ends up " tolerating " your guns and shooting but will she be as accepting when you want to take her " babies " to the evil gun range?
 
My wife started anti, then was fine with them but wanted nothing to do with them. She now owns 2 handguns and shoots what she gets her hands on.

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My wife was also anti gun. So when I brought the first rifle home she was not happy but I did it anyway. Then the pistols started arriving and she has gotten over it. I sold her by finding articles where guns were used to save families when the BG let themselves in.

She still complains if she finds a mag or round sitting on the counter but I pretty much told her to get over it and that I would rather piss her off then leave the family unarmed. She is still married to me so she must have gotten over it.

Now if she knew how much money I was spending on my hobby then she might change her mind. But that is another story.
 
Posting throught the wife's account, so this is not her opinion.

I was raised in a very tight family, and thus have always been that way. We cover each backs all the time. I married my wife because we are two peas in a pod and get along on almost every issue. When I look at my friends who have nothing in common with their wives it is easy to see how miserable they are. I know of one guy counting the days until his daughter hits 18 so he can leave his wife. You DO NOT WANT THIS!!!

I would say try to talk to her logically about it. You want her to be as safe as possible, and if the relation progressed to a point where you had kids you want to keep them as safe as possible as well. If she refuses on that point or thinks merely having the gun is far more dangerous, point her to some of the armed citizen in the American Riflemen et al. My wife and I talked about this before we got married, she was not anti before, but she sure is pro right now.

Having said that, there is absolutely no way in Heck that I would every marry a woman that would not let me protect my family to the best of my (and her) ability period.

If she won't talk or is totally stubborn. Move on for your own, your future family's, and her own good. Don't look back and don't give it a second though, you'd have made the right move. If you can convert her, you may end up spending your range time loading mags and collecting brass, and being outshot by her. That is a good thing to experience by the way.
 
Dump her immediately. This is no small disagreement because it says a lot about her willingness to follow the crowd, willingness to make decisions without facts, unwillingness to learn, evaluate and change her mind, etc.

Dump her immediately. Women outnumber men, educated women greatly outnumber educated men, there are many other choices waiting for you to become available. Unless, of course, you are truly ugly. ;-)

Dump her immediately. You can learn to cook and tidy up an apartment. Do not have children by her because she will poison their minds (any mother can).

Dump her immediately. I've been happliy married for over 30 years. That is impossible with a split of opinion over basic issues of freedom and responsibility.

Do not take her back. She'll lie to get you before she'll give up her core beliefs.
 
Run man run before she takes at a minimum of 1/2 of everything plus the house. Then if you have kid's she get's it all plus $750 a month. Don't take the chance!!!!!!!!
 
I have not read all the post. However, I dated someone once who was an anti and her parents were worst than her about it. She knew I had hunting rifles and was okay with them. However, she did not know about the handguns. She had in her mind that handguns had no other purpose other than killing people and they were evil. Well told me she wanted me to get rid of them and my immediate response was nope,, it is not going to happen. She said it was going to be her or the pistols. Well I still have my handguns and an even better woman now who likes to shoot guns. My wife had never shot a firearm before we meet and now she goes to the range almost every time I go.

Once my ex was gone, I could not believe I was even with her. We had almost nothing in common, but I could not see that when I was in the relationship. My advice is this. She should be your partner and if the two of you cannot come to a middle ground on all issues then you are not compatible. If she refuses to come around do not run show her the door. I promise you will be better off divorces are expensive trust me.
 
How many out there have come across this problematic situation? My current girlfriend and potential wife is super anti-firearm. I only recently have gotten into the hobby, but she opposes me at every turn. I go to the range every week (no problem), but I was sick of renting and now I'm in the process of buying, and she is livid.

Has anyone ever converted their significant other? I'm trying my damnedest, but she is one tough cookie to crack. Part of the problem is that she has her family backing her up on the subject, and while my own family is in my corner, I really would like her to understand and respect my choice on her own...

Any advice? Any inspiring stories of revelation and epiphany? It would do my weary spirit some good to hear.


Well, not sure how "inspiring" this may be, but sure, I converted a couple of women into pro-gunnies. Including a few of my now ex's. (Most of my breakups were due to my work and often going on long trips, not firearms) Of course, they were on the fence. They weren't "super anti-firearms", they were open minded and willing to learn. This is a trait I prefer when dating women in general, not specific to firearms. But that's just me.


On a side note, my recommendation on a guy teaching his girlfriend on how to shoot is simple, don't. Send her to a class or have a female friend do so.

This isn't over guns, per se. You have a strong belief that happens to be owning firearms. Could be religion, politics, hobby, whatever. Decide how important it is to you, and decide how important she is to you. You could try explaining its importance to her, and making her aware that you will not change your mind to its importance. You could try explaining that you disagree with her, and is she willing to make any compromise whatsoever? If not, you'll likely have to move on. If she is willing to compromise, give it a shot. Whatcha got to lose?

If she is not willing to compromise, you cannot change her mind. Lemme repeat this, if she is not willing to tolerate a belief you hold deeply, there is not a damn thing you can do to change this. You'll have to make up your own mind on how you will deal with this should it be the case. Ditch her, ditch the firearms, whatever.

Here's a trick I learned, and that I recommend to other guys that are single or merely dating. Find a translator. I have a long time friend that's a lady and has been dating for some time. I ask her to decrypt things from "femalespeak" to "guyspeak", and in return I bribe her heavily. Plus she very much enjoys smacking me upside the skull and letting me know how much of a complete freakin moron I am at times. Asking for relationship advice from an audience of fellow pro-gun guys is pretty much like asking advice from a mirror. If you want good info, you gotta go to a source that thinks like the opposition.
 
I only recently have gotten into the hobby, but she opposes me at every turn. I go to the range every week (no problem), but I was sick of renting and now I'm in the process of buying, and she is livid.

My first reaction was to say RUN, but then I noticed you said you only recently got into the hobby ... so basically you're changing the rules on her in the middle of the game. She got engaged to a non-gun guy and now all of the sudden you're a gun guy.

If this is the only issue between you two then you need to give her an opportunity to adjust. If she refuses, if she stays "livid", if she continues to oppose you at every turn then you kick her to the curb.

Lay down the ground rules from the start. Tell her "I will own guns, I will shoot guns, I will keep guns in the house. This is non-negotiable."

If she's actually an alright chick who's just misinformed then she'll probably back off and maybe eventually she'll be a shooter too (depending on how you go about introducing her to shooting ... that there is a topic for another thread).


There are several issues that I should have put my foot down before I got married to my wife, but like hillbilly said I was being polite. None of the issues I have with my wife are life or death, but had I laid down some ground rules things would be smoother for us now (actually had she made some things she wanted perfectly clear up front it would have helped too).
 
whatever you do, dont get married and then buy guns behind her back. She would be so mad that she will most likely make up some story to the police or something to have your firearms confiscated. Then it would be the helpless girl vs the gun-nut and guess who would win.

What I did was rather simple. I said, "listen, I love you, but my guns were here first and they will continue to be here after you, regardless of what you think. You can leave me if you want, but its not going to solve anything"

I then told her, I would lock up the guns, store ammo separate etc until I took a safety class. Its all about comprimise.

Now getting her to the range is another issue. :D

Good luck.
 
Geez, I would hate to be in a relationship with some of the people on here. If you care more about a gun than you do your spouse then something is wrong. I love to shoot and I like my guns. However if I had to choose between my relationship (14 years now) and my guns I would sell every one I owned tomorrow. That would not mean I would not still be pro-gun ownership and continue to support RKBA. It would just mean I value my relationship more than an abstract concept or a piece of steal. I would just have to carry a knife. I would not give up a definate and loving relationship on the very, very slim chance I would ever need the gun to defend myself or my spouse.
 
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