YAY! and OY! gun purchases.

[Zaydok Allen]

I got a cheap derringer, made by Cobra. IMO, part of the allure of derringers IS that they are cheap. Now, if I'd spent what a Bond costs, I'd be pissed, too.

It was my own fault.

 

[Howland937]

Most recently, a Colt Defender LW was a "yay" until I found out it didn't work. Found out the firing pin stop lever was mangled, fix it. Yay again...until it stuck HARD short of battery about 3 times per mag. Tried to figure it out, took it to a 'smith, then another 'smith...then back to Colt. Still a no go, so it became an "OY" until I traded it and $50 for a NIB Sig UC.
Worst OY ever was ordering a Springfield XD when they first came out. American flags all over the box. Opened the box and saw "Made in Croatia" big and bold on top of the slide. Didn't even take it off the counter. Closed the box, took a $100 hit and traded it toward a (different) Colt.

 

[TTv2]

1. Sorry, but I have several that I have to say I'm glad I bought. but the top of the list would be the NAA Minimaster, two .357 Charter Arms made in Stratford, CT, the H&R Handi rifle that came with two barrels (.223 and .308) that had scopes mounted and sighted in, the WASR-10 I bought when AK's were $400... basically they're mostly cheap guns that were good.

2. Inevitably when you buy lots of guns you'll take a chance on one being unsatisfactory. The Marlin XT-22 I have is a terrible shooting rifle. You would think a cheap Brazilian semi auto .22 with a Zamak receiver would shoot worse than an American made Marlin bolt action, but no. This was my first and last Marlin rifle I'll ever buy.

Then there's that time I bought a Cobray over/under derringer and have regretted it ever since. It's my intention to shoot the thing so loose that it literally can't function anymore and I'll trade it in at one of those gun buybacks, not so much because it's one less gun out there, but because I'm generally concerned some Bubba somewhere is gonna try to shoot it and he's going to unknowingly fire both barrels at the same time and blow his hand off.

The only good thing I can say about that Cobray is it is very slim for a .410 derringer and is also a 3" chamber, so you can load it with the maximum amount of shot a handgun can hold and is so crudely made that one barrel has such shallow rifling that I'm pretty sure it doesn't spin the shot at all.

 

[TTv2]

P7M8

Ruger Charger

What's the issue with the Charger? Mine is a sub MOA shooter.

 

[cslinger]

No issues at all. It’s just sort of an oddity that I just never used as much as I thought.

 

[TTv2]

No issues at all. It’s just sort of an oddity that I just never used as much as I thought.

Those came out before pistol braces became all the rage and that's really what it needs to be a good shooter. The bipod they pack it with is dumb and I've used it maybe once and didn't like it.

 

[TTv2]

My biggest Yay has been single action revolvers. Always thought one would be neat, and made an impulse buy on a Heritage .357 at a good price a year or so ago. Have have added a couple more since, a Pietta in .45 Colt and a single six. That most likely is not the end of that, something about the manual of arms on a 4 click single action just really gives me a lot of shooting enjoyment. Also, how did it take me decades to find .45 Colt...

I haven't had any serious Oy purchases, but, probably the Keltec Sub2000 falls under that category. Not accurate or enjoyable enough to shoot to hold onto. The folding option was nice, but the portability isn't as useful as I thought if I don't really want to use it when I get wherever it is that I am going. I have had a few ARs and a few lever action centerfires that I just never really warmed up to also. They were fine guns, just didn't like them enough to keep them. A couple of larger frame .22 revolvers - a Taurus Tracker and a S&W Model 18 - just didn't appeal either.

I'll agree with you some on the Kel Tec. The design is really cool, it's super light and compact when folded, but as a shooter it's not much fun as the trigger is terrible, the sights sit too low, and mine is the .40, so recoil is so stout that it bruises my shoulder every time I shoot it.

That said, it's usefulness isn't as a range toy, it's meant for business and it's been reliable for me, even with aftermarket Glock mags that caused my Glocks to choke. I do think there are improvements that Kel Tec can make to improve it tho, I think the Sub2k desperately needs some sort of delayed blowback system to reduce recoil. I don't care if it costs $200 more to make that happen, it's worth it.

 

[TTv2]

Actually it was a wonderfully made gun with great fit and finish. It’s just not fun to shoot IMO, I think 410 shot shells are a poor idea in handguns, and as with any derringer they get harder to shoot than is practical at more than 7 yards. Plus, only two rounds? There’s way better options for a small defense gun.

Nice gun, just not for me.

The COP is the one derringer I’d actually like to own, but purely for its unique nature. Not as a shooter. Considering their price though, I doubt it’ll ever happen.

For as much as I can bash the Cobray .410 derringers, they're at least priced at a point that reflects their useful value, which is to say a lot closer to zero than the Bond Arms are.

 

[redneck2]

My Yah! guns are the ones I have now after downsizing. Multiple CZ’s, a Browning X bolt. All shoot well under 1” with the correct ammo. Windham Bushmaster AR that is incredibly accurate.

Only real dud I can remember that was a design problem was a Springfield V-10 1911. It had a ported barrel that blew gas back into your face with every shot. I put maybe one mag through it. Went away less than two weeks after I got it.

 

[P5 Guy]

YAY! Springfield M1 made the same year as I was.

 

[hemiram]

My Yay guns are my first Dan Wesson 15-2 I bought used in '77.
And every DW revolver after that.
My S&W 28-2 I bought in 1977.
My Browning BDA 380 I bought about new '80 or so.
Every Astra gun I've had.
Every Beretta made gun.
Every Tanfoglio made gun I've had.
Every Turkish made gun I've had.

Oys!
First gun period, a Taurus Model 83.
First second and third 1911's, that was enough for me, not liking the grip anyway. The Colt Combat Commander was the worst of the three.
FTL Auto 9. Blown extractor. Another blown extractor, and another, and yes, I was using the hard to find "Standard velocity" ammo they recommended.
Walther PPK. Junk.Just awful machine work.
Every new gun from '81 until '84. Every single one had issues bad enough to make them an "OY!" Used ones were perfect.

 

[tubeshooter]

"Yay!":

• Marlin 39A
• Marlin 1894CSS
• Marlin 336 (see a pattern here?)

"Oy!":

• No-name .22 revolver.

Worst gun I ever owned.
That gun got me over the cost of a quality .22 revolver in a big way.



I have a few others that I like pretty good but it is a milder "Yay!" or it's just that it took several months to finally run across them and procure them. They are not listed here. I've been rather fortunate to really just have the one "Oy!" listed above.

 

[Sneakshot92]

Yay! Single Six. Didn't really want it, not into cowboy guns, but the price was right even if it was filthy. Man what a great gun! Kinda love cowboy guns now.

Oy! Colt Commander in 9mm. Was expecting to love it, but I never did, and it never once produced a target that made me proud. Best thing about it was the horse stamped into the metal which insured a substantial return when it went down the road. Put me off of 1911's

Dirty shame. Many 1911's are sweet shooters. Guess you ended up with a bad egg.

 

[Sneakshot92]

YAY! Ruger 77 Hawkeye African in .375 Ruger, McMillan Hunter stock, Leupold VX-R 2-7x33. I have no need of a dangerous game rifle, but this one is a blast, and with the right loads works for any medium to big game. I like the cartridge and I like the launcher.

OY! Every lever action I've ever owned, and that's been quite a few. I really want to like them. I've had a couple of Marlin 336 .30-30s, including a nice straight-stocked Texan. I've had 1894s in .357 and .44 Magnum. I've slicked 'em up and tricked 'em out, but none of them held my interest. Don't have a lever of any sort anymore. Same thing with 1911s. They just don't do it for me. And like lever actions, I had to own several before drawing that conclusion.

In other words you like the looks of lever guns. Just not the function.

 

[CapnMac]

First time at the range and the bushing was sent down range and broke spent cash on getting a new one and the gun was not reliable

That would put a person off, true enough.
But, I have to wonder, too; the original design was bushing-less. Could you mean the spring tube? These had some spectacular uh-ohs, as you have to ensure that the key on the tube is indexed into the slide (sadly, it's possible install it that way). Else the thing gets loose and takes the stacked springs with it, too. Now, the non-colt "officer's sized" examples have a number of solutions to how to hold the spring(s) in.

 

[Pudge]

Dirty shame. Many 1911's are sweet shooters. Guess you ended up with a bad egg.

I think I'm going to disagree. I suspect someone else might see that gun as great. I think it is me, the only single stack semi I have gotten to shoot well is a Ruger Mk. I think I might be the real oy.

 

[Dibbs]

I really wanted a PMR30, when they first came out. They were so hard to find, they were either egregiously over-priced, or wait-listed, everywhere. I decided I would get one later on, and picked one up about 5 years later. Turns out the gun isn't all it was originally hyped up to be. Not quite an "OY", but if I had gone thru the trouble to get one originally, it would have been
an "oy" style let-down.

 

[Mosin77]

Yay. Marlin 39A. “That much coin for a .22?” But wow, what a great rifle.

Three (minor) Oys. First real “oy” is my first rifle, an M44 Mosin carbine. And that only because at the time you could get a perfect one for $100-120, but I, being a newb, paid $120 for a somewhat beat up one with worn finish and no cleaning rod. Today the nicer one would cost $400.

Second Oy would be the 4” tapered barrel S&W Military & Police revolver/model 10. It was a bit too snappy for me to enjoy at the range. I later got a heavy barrel version and like it a lot better.

Third Oy would be my Springfield 1911. That model came parkerized or stainless. At the time I was thinking function, and got stainless. Almost immediately afterward I wished I’d gotten parkerized due to looks. But it’s been a good gun. I guess I’m lucky that most of my guns have turned out how I expect!

 

[uzimon]

1. One of the bullpups
2. Yet another glock

 

[792mauser]

no1 is my Sharps rifles. Even the IAB beater i have.


No2.... almost certainly my PA63 in 9mm Makarov.
It was painful to shoot and it would slide bite if I wasn't careful.
Awful experience
Can't remember what i traded it into but it was mine for only a couple of months if that.

 

[CarJunkieLS1]

Yay for me is PMR30, S&W 610, Kimber 1911 and a Rem 30 AR. And my #1 Yay is my Ruger 9mm PCC.

Oy would be a Rem 770 and Taurus PT709. My worst Oy was I sold my Bersa Thunder 380. That was a pistol I should've never let go of.

 

[J-Bar]

Yay: an unusual S&W 3” Model 60 .38 (not .357) with target hammer and trigger and adjustable sights that was traded in for a new semi-auto at a tactical store. I took a chance, bought and lettered it. It was one of a special order of only 145 units over 20 years ago, before the Hillary hole. Box and papers included.

Oy: I have always loved .410 shotguns, yearned for a side-by-side for decades. Traded into a CZ Ringneck. Gorgeous gun, case colored, beautiful wood. Could not hit crap with it, stock comb was too high. Gone.

 

[JR24]

Hmmm.

1. Wilson EDC X9, just everything I wanted right out of the box. Perfectly met my expectations.

Gosh this one is tough, I don't really have any true OY! purchases

2. Sig P245 I guess. For years I drooled over a 245 or 220 compact, thought it would be my perfect gun and finally wandered into a trade for one for a gun I never shot anyway. It just didn't click for me, grip was the wrong size and the trigger was pretty meh after I got to know it. Ended up trading it off for more than I had in it, so it was a worthwhile try anyway.

 

[Robbins290]

YAY = Sig P226 nitron. Love that gun

OY! = Charter arms ar-7. Tried so hard to get that thing to function on any ammo. CCI stingers or anything. It was a single shot. Been tempted to try the henrys ar-7 but the burn from 10 years ago is still hurting.

 

[pharmer]

Yay, at least 19 out of every 20 guns I have owned.
OY! Jennings .22, RG revolvers-pick one, FEG R9 BHP almost wanna be (30lb S/A trigger), Taurus PT22 cracked slide. That's what I remember, lotta guns came and went like the years. oe