You have No Place in NY if you oppose SAFE

[ThorinNNY]

act, says Gov. Andrew M Cuomo. See the article at:
http:/blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/203801/Cuomo-extreme-conservatives-have-no-place-in-the-state-of-new-york/

So, I, a life long citizen of New York State, am to be smeared as an extremist
because I am opposed to Cuomo`s NY un S.A.F.E. Act? What`s next Mein Fuhrer, rounding up and deporting all members of the NYS Conservative Party, The Tea Party and the few conservative Republicans still left in NY State?

Please read the above article and pass it along to your friends. If you're not a NY State resident, there ARE people who want to bring the same kind of laws to you!

 

[Doc7]

This guy is out of his mind. This article makes me so angry. I am not even a NY resident. Cuomo is clearly trying to lump in a whole slew of issues;

"Are they these extreme conservatives who are right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay? Is that who they are?"

Assault weapon is a made up term. If he wants, he can introduce legislation that refers to a 5 shot 38 spl snubby as an "Assault Weapon" and then he can apply his hateful labels and words to even more "citizens" of his kingdom.

 

[GiorgioG]

I couldn't be happier having relocated from WNY to the Raleigh, NC area - this past summer. Lower taxes, more jobs, and no SAFE Act.

My first order of business when I got down here was to order a 10-pack of 30-round PMAGs

2 weeks ago I finally got around to applying for my pistol permit. Picked it up yesterday.

There's really no hope in NY for sane gun laws.

 

[Ryanxia]

Edit: Is there any pro Rights organizations taking action to oppose this seemingly tyrannical situation taking place?
Anything on the grassroots/state level that we could support?

 

[torqem]

Vote with your feet and your wallet. If you stay there, paying taxes, you are funding the enemy. What do you call somebody who aids and abets your enemy? "Friend" is not what comes to my mind.

 

[tomrkba]

New Yorkers need to man up and put this fool in his place. There is a STATE beyond Manhattan whose needs are not being met by the NYC machine. I have friends in WNY who never go to the city and certainly do not subscribe to the values exhibited by Cuomo.

There's really no hope in NY for sane gun laws.

Yes, there is, but the state is not willing to do what is necessary to solve the problem. There is too much corruption involved and the gravy train would stop.

Is there any pro Rights organizations taking action to oppose this seemingly tyrannical situation taking place?
Anything on the grassroots/state level that we could support?

The problem is that the Democrats hold 71% of the Assembly and so on. They completely dominate the state's politics. 20% of the state's population can rail against the NYC machine, but they won't listen. NYC really should become its own state at this point.

 

[ThorinNNY]

There are organizations and individuals who ARE doing everything in their power to repeal the S.A.F.E. Act. The New York State Rifle And Pistol Association, the NRA and SCOPE - Shooters Committee on Political Education are working hard on this issue.
Radio personality Melody Burns of talk 1300 AM out of Albany worked very hard on this issue- her reward, the Cuomo Mafia leaned veerrry hard on Paul Vandenburgh (station owner) to shut her up. She was fired in December and Michael Savage was put in her slot. While Savage is good on some issues, he`s viciously anti-hunting, supports magazine limits, and is generally a weenie on 2 A issues in my opinion!
There are billboards outside of Albany, NY Slamming Cuomo on the SAFE Act. They were paid for by SCOPE members.
The fact is, there`s lots of grassroots activities working for repeal of the SAFE Act. We also have some support among NY State Senators and NY State Representatives.
But Cuomo`s anti-gun campaign is being financed by Mike Bloomberg, the Obama administration and others too numerous to mention.
Out of NY`s 62 counties, 52 have passed resolutions opposing the SAFE Act.
In fact, if we were just able to cut NYC, Westchester, Nassau, Suffolk and Albany Counties out of New York State, away from the entire USA and tow them to Russia, New York State would resemble most other states in the USA. But, betraying and abandoning our 2 A friends and compatriots in those blighted urban areas would be dishonorable and cowardly!
The problem is we are fighting very powerful , extremely well financed groups and individuals.
The Watertown Daily Times which has circulation in Jefferson, Lewis, St. Lawrence and western parts of Franklin County recently published a series of blogs by one Jerry Moore , editor. Jerry Moore`s blogs are viciously anti 2 A.
You can find his blogs by going to :
http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/section/blogs 16. He was saying what Cuomo is saying before Cuomo actually said it. Coincidence or DNC talking points being circulated?
We have done a lot, already , this year and plan to do a lot more, I wish I could guarantee the results we desire but you probably heard this before; ~th best laid plans of mice and men oft gang a gley- attributed to Robbie Burns of Scotland.

 

[GiorgioG]

The problem is that the Democrats hold 71% of the Assembly and so on. They completely dominate the state's politics. 20% of the state's population can rail against the NYC machine, but they won't listen. NYC really should become its own state at this point.

That's the entire issue in a nutshell. No amount of "man-ing up" is going to fix this. NYC has no incentive to be its own state...they get lots of cheap power from the Niagara Power Project, state-wide tax revenue to fund their social programs (Medicaid, etc.)

 

[Old Fuff]

New York’s problem with gun issues is much like those in Illinois with its relationship to Cook County and Chicago. But recently the anti-gun advocates have had their behinds kicked by Federal Court decisions. Illinois is not Arizona, but it’s much better then it was.

So don’t give up because there is hope.

 

[AlexanderA]

Stuff like this is going to absolutely kill Cuomo's chances for national office -- even his chances of getting the Democratic nomination. Either he's stupid, politically, or he's very smart, figuring he's consolidating his position in New York politics. I tend to think it's the latter. After all, Hillary Clinton is the runaway favorite to win the nomination. She's officially a New York resident, and the Constitution says that electors cannot vote for two candidates from the same state, so a Cuomo VP bid is precluded.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

That is blatant violation of civil rights under color of authority -- a federal crime.

He is saying that if you don't agree with him politically, you should be driven out of the state.

 

[plodder]

After all, Hillary Clinton is the runaway favorite to win the nomination. She's officially a New York resident, and the Constitution says that electors cannot vote for two candidates from the same state, so a Cuomo VP bid is precluded.

Uhmmmm: It wasn't all that long ago that she carpet-bagged her way into NY to become eligible to be a US Senator from there. What makes you think she wouldn't do it again?

 

[vincyr]

And he manages to piss off a huge chunk of the people who still supported him with this statement. Most moderates(regardless of political affiliation) who had agreed with or at least tolerated most of his policies till now will probably jump ship after this massively stupid statement. He keeps this stuff up(and I expect/hope he will), and the only people he's going to have left on his side are the psychotically radical liberals, and they won't swing anything in his favor.

 

[torqem]

Hilary bailed on the SOS job, due to Bengazi

she is guilty as hell of massive incompetence and negligence on that one. I hope that that (and obamacare) are her undoing. Obama was smart enough to not take us on. She'll feel that she has nothing to lose by it.

 

[Jaymo]

Right to life is bad?
Funny, how socialists oppose killing anyone or anything, except unborn children and conservatives.

 

[goon]

Actually, I'm not an extreme conservative. I'm pretty freakin' left on some issues. Not that it matters - I'll never live in NY. The only reason I'd go there is if I could work there, then take the money and run back across the border every night to live in VT or PA.

For those NYer's who were insulted by your governor, he pretty much told you to vote with your feet. Maybe that's what you should do.

 

[PabloJ]

act, says Gov. Andrew M Cuomo. See the article at:
http:/blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/203801/Cuomo-extreme-conservatives-have-no-place-in-the-state-of-new-york/

So, I, a life long citizen of New York State, am to be smeared as an extremist
because I am opposed to Cuomo`s NY un S.A.F.E. Act? What`s next Mein Fuhrer, rounding up and deporting all members of the NYS Conservative Party, The Tea Party and the few conservative Republicans still left in NY State?

Please read the above article and pass it along to your friends. If you're not a NY State resident, there ARE people who want to bring the same kind of laws to you!

"Hijo", think positive. The best deep concealment defensive pistol available is made in Deer Park NY.

 

[Charlie Horse]

One of the first things we need to do is to stop using the term "resident." A resident is defined as "a person who lives somewhere permanently or on a long-term basis." The proper term for someone who lives, votes and pays taxes in a state is "citizen." I am a citizen of the state of Alabama.

Why does this make a difference? Citizens have rights, and when they interact with the government at either the state or federal level, are operating as parties to the social contract. Every time time you remind the government that you are a citizen, you are invoking all of the rights that come with that. When you're called a "resident" they are hoping that you'll forget that you forget your position in the scheme of things and accept something less. This individual citizen is the basic unit from which all political power is derived in a democratic republic.

It reminds me of the time that the apostle Paul was tossed into jail, and the attitude was that he was "just another Jew." Attitudes changed when he pointed out that he was a Roman citizen. With those two words he invoked rights that changed how he was treated.

I wonder what would happen if all of the BATF forms were changed to read "citizen" rather than "resident." Granted its a small change, but words mean things.

 

[JRWhit]

Seriously, at this point with the incredible over reach of Bloomberg, and now the further over reach promised by De Blasio, I am coming to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a fair election in NYC. It has gotten to a point where it just doesn't make sense anymore.

 

[vincyr]

For those NYer's who were insulted by your governor, he pretty much told you to vote with your feet. Maybe that's what you should do.

Which is what he wants. Every person he drives from the state is one less person that can oppose him here. He has been trying for years to weed those that must be lead from those willing to be ruled, and some have left. But not as many as he had hoped, and he is discovering that the ones left only fight harder when pressured. As a whole, us NYers are a stubborn and belligerent group. When we choose to stand our ground, we don't run away

 

[JERRY]

he is a petty man whose wife cheated on him and left him for a pony boy. his ego is fragile and he must loud mouth his way through life using the police as his supporters. unfortunately the majority of new York voters are use to blindly obeying the way Adolph Hitler preferred and the way Andrew Cuomo demands.

 

[torqem]

Baloney. You are staying cause you're scared to leave. Meanwhile, you are funding this jerk with your tax monies.

 

[ThorinNNY]

" Vote with your feet"???
The first time I saw/heard this response, I groaned. But then an idea slowly worked its into my consciousness. Yeah , I think I like it.
I can just see an ad campaign that goes something like this:

Freedom loving Pro 2nd Amendment advocates & activists, Vote with your feet and help us take back New York State from the likes of Cuomo, DiBallesio, Bloomberg and all the other Liberals! That`s right, bite the bullet make the sacrifice, move into New York State, register to vote and drive the deluded Liberal lunatics out of New York State.
Look, it`s been done before. The example of Texas comes to mind. People from many states came into Texas, fought Santa Anna`s armies and helped Sam Houston et al establish the Republic (and later the State of) TEXAS.

 

[JERRY]

sorry Thorn, NY is like a foreign country (as we should hope). we will give you support, but the dirty work should be done by those living there.

we lost a lot of Americans in the middle east in places where the locals could care less for the most part.

we here in the states cant afford to move to NY and pay higher taxes, live in less of a house, in less safe neighborhoods, with less say so in our own lives when the locals have let it go so far out of reach through their own apathy.

 

[herrwalther]

I moved out of upstate NY before the SAFE act passed. When I was offered a very lucrative career back in the state I turned it down, specifically stating the SAFE act would make me a felon as soon as I crossed the border. The organization doesn't care for the the act either or the puppets in Albany who are controlled by NYC.