Best 'basic' AR-15 out there

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I'm mostly a compact semi-auto guy, but lately I've been drawn to getting a basic AR-15 - it'll be the second gun I've wanted more for historical/collecting purposes than as a regular shooter (though I'll be shooting it, don't get me wrong) My question: What's the best buy in the format? I actually don't want bells and whistles - the closer to the 'pure' AR-15/M-16 I can get, the better I'll like it.
 
Rock River , Bushmaster , or Stag should be able to fix you right up affordably . Just my opinion but that is the " big 3" , Mine is a rr but had i not got a deal stag would have been it . Bushy has too many happy owners to ignore tho , and are not horrificly overpriced .
 
If you want the worst AR money can buy, go ahead and get that Model 1 Sales AR.


If you want the best AR - get a law-enforcement model COLT.



Everything else is part of a spectrum in the middle.
 
Colt L.E models, Bushmaster, or Stag are all I would recomend. Rock River is good but they tend to stray away from basic. Stag is the best value and having a AR from each of the makers I have listed their quality is tied with Bushmaster for the best IMO. Colt is good but it seems like Stag and Bushmaster just put more time into fit and finish of their rifles.
 
my advice would be to buy a used AR from the 70s or 80s era. now that the ban is over, they're probably not that hard to find.
 
So I think every brand of AR made has been recommended in this thread. That really clears things up doesnt it?


Well, it wouldn't happen if people would read the "34 ways to ...." AR thread which shows why Colt is the best. :evil:
 
Ok lone ill clearify , tho i think any of the three are fine for both economy and quality , each has issues and strong points , but this is a new ar thread that dont need bogged down in minuta

1. Stag ar , they provide components to many companys including entire company rollmarked recievers , and make the Smith and Wesson line in entireity .
2. Rock river arms , They have a unique chamber that handles both 5.56 and .223 with virtualy match accuracy , are well assembled and finished at a reasonable price .
3. Bushmaster , They literaly set the standard for " third party ar rifles " . They have a lot of options and are much more affordable than colt , comperable to the two best newcomers listed above .

Each brand does things right , and wrong . Howeaver a first time buyer will be well served by any of the ones listed without breaking the bank . An ar tends to turn into a journy rather than a destination , and entry price/quality is imporntant . Get the features you want NOW from a quality company , and count on spending more later to change it . Things rangeing from a tactical setup , 3 gun game gun , and varmet gun can all be done on the same lower , to a degree on the same entire rifle if a fella is willing to work at it .

I was looking for a stag when i ran across an undervalued RRA and picked it up . I would have a bushy if that is what i had found 200 too cheap . An ar is second only to a 1911 in the sense that the inital firarm you buy may well not resemble what you wind up with as your life and wants changes .
 
Well, it wouldn't happen if people would read the "34 ways to ...." AR thread which shows why Colt is the best.

A big drawback to Colt is that they officially want to sell their guns with flash hiders, bayonet lugs, and collapsible stock to Law Enforcement Only. You can find dealers who don't honor Colt's desires, but I believe that Colt still stamps their guns like that as LEO.
 
If you want a good reliable shooter, any of the big names (A,B,C,R) should do you just fine.

If you want a semiauto carbine closest to current military spec, LMT is it. Colt LE model if you don't mind goofy pin sizes and want the same brand as a general issue military M4.

If you want a 20" closest to military spec, you will have to build one, as FN doesn't/can't sell anything on the civilian market... rumor is that that stipulation was built into their M16 contract. I'm building a 20" M16 clone right now to replace my Bushy HBAR. :)
 
Yep, J&T make complete parts kits, everything but the receiver and elbow grease to put it together (see post on local help for building an AR).

Building an AR is a great way to go, especially if you are looking for lots of extras, then you will save mucho money. On a basic platform you can only save @ 100-150, so it is not worth the hassle IMHO, get the RRA, Bushmaster or Stag rifles.

Building gives you pride of ownership:neener:

The neat thing about ARs, if you don't like the configuration that you have, you can always modularly change it to your liking.

Good luck.

PS. No matter what you do, you can start buying AMMO and MAGS NOW!!!!!
last thing you want is a light weight stick, if you can't get them in the future:rolleyes:
 
Colt is usually pretty good but their quality control is too inconsistent for me to recommend. If you get a good Colt L.E. model, it'll be great. If you get a bad one, good luck with getting it fixed by the factory.

CMMG and Bravo Company are every bit the equal of Colt in quality of parts and construction. LMT is reputed to be as well, but I have little personal experience with their stuff. Sabre Defense ARs are very good. Stag/CMT makes excellent parts, including proofed, MP-tested AR bolts, but I know little about their complete ARs. Of those manufacturers mentioned I prefer CMMG for their selection and service, but I use a lot of Stag/CMT parts in my custom builds.

- Chris
 
For my 20" govt. build, I had originally intended to buy a Bravo Company upper, but they don't have any and don't have any ETA on when they might have more, last I talked to them. My current plan now is to buy a CMMG M16 upper, and LMT lower, BCG, CH, and carry handle. The CMMG upper is 100% milspec as far as I can tell.
 
Hard to say. I have an OLD Colt SP1 original and a Bushmaster M4 type "Dissapator" and I love 'em both. I also have a 7.62X51 in a DPMS LR 308 AP4, which seems to me to be just as good as the others.:banghead:

I guess that if money is not the primary consideration, I'd get the Colt, both for authencitity, and for resale value. For a shooter, that you're not worried about selling somewhere the road, maybe a DPMS.:confused:
 
Del-Ton's kits are the best bang for the buck, period.

With a Stag or SA stripped lower, you can get a chrome-lined Wilson barrelled rifle for around $650, and there's nothing finer in that price range.
 
When you say "pure AR15/M16" - do you mean "as close to military issue as I can get?"

In which case - do you have a preference as to which one? Rifle or Carbine? VietNam era? 80's? Gulf War I era? Modern era?

There's a lot of variations out there that have been "official" at any given point in time. I imagine specifying what you're looking for will get you pointed to specific products. :)
 
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