If it can do this to steel what would it do to a BG?

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If you're considering stepping up. You should look into a used Beretta 92FS. You will be hard pressed to find a softer shooting full size auto. It's super accurate, super reliable and a ton of fun. It's the only pistol my gf likes to shoot due to the low recoil compared with my other guns.

I've seen some amazing deals on gun broker. 400 or less if your patient.
 
I'll do a plus one for the pk380. it was designed for people like wifeofbleys. it's not the smallest, or most powerful, but it is extremely shootable. the ergo's on it are great and the recoil is just ridiculously small. if recoil on a 9mm was a high school defensive tackle charging into you, the recoil on the pk380 would be the younger, 7 year old brother of the defensive tackle . I don't know that it would be any worse than your .22. all that comes together in a handgun that will throw .380 down the line accurately and repeatably.
 
What does the other-side of that canister look like?? Did any of the rounds exit the other-side or dent??? or dimple it????
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RinkRat, Unfortunately, we didn't even think to look at or photograph the back side of the tank. My husband says he believes there were some dents, but we can't be sure and there is no photo evidence to back up the claim.
 
That is a neat looking 22. Looks kinda glockish, except for the safety on the slide.
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Yes, BeerSleeper, the M22 is quite Glockish. The M22 I have is one that was produced after some design changes were made to make them look "less Glockish", though they still very much do. It's also heavier than one might think. It feels really good in the hand.
 
Thanks, randytrapper! I wish more here would see that, sometimes. My mind tells me it's better to shoot something...anything....than to be totally defenseless. Or, to have a gun that is too much for me, something I fear and, therefore, I won't be as willing to pick it up if necessary or it could be turned against me...
 
My gf would only shoot my .22 at the range until i finally got her to try my XDm. Now she burns up all my ammo every time we go. Something to help with the recoil on the ploymers is to get a titanium guide rod or throw a flashlight on the end. Both add muzzle weight which significantly reduces recoil.

Hope this helps. And a RIA 1911 in 9mm would be a good gun for you. 42oz empty and about $400 new. Nice and heavy to soak up that recoil.
 
How's that M22 shoot? Is it pretty consistent? Is it picky about ammo? I saw a youtube review of one that had two malfunctions in one mag. Other reviews range from malfs a lot, to great gun, eats anything.

I'm thinking hard about getting one of those. I had recently been trying to load really, really light 9mm loads, so my wife would have something really light to shoot, in a gun with a frame the size and shape of a common handgun (so many .22's are tiny, or oddly shaped). This may be much easier, and a good enough excuse to buy another gun ;)
 
My mind tells me it's better to shoot something...anything....than to be totally defenseless.
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And that is absolutely true ... You're better armed than most of the population with that ISSC on your person. I just think that with a good selection in front of you you could find something a bit more effective at producing an involuntary stop if you need it.

You did read up on corneredcat, right?
I just thought of another source that might compliment corneredcat, look up "hellinahandbasket" he runs a blog aimed at beginner's SD and ran a charity course for violent crime victims for years.
 
How's that M22 shoot? Is it pretty consistent? Is it picky about ammo?
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Check your PM's BeerSleeper. As for being picky about ammo...ISSC suggests a break-in period using CCI mini-mag 40 grain, so that is the only ammo we have used. I have read on other sites that the M22 does not like hollow points during the breaking in period. The shop where we purchased the gun said that, after the breaking in period (600 rounds or so) the M22 should "eat" anything.

I forgot to mention in the PM about consistency....as far as we can tell, it is extremely consistent.
 
A nice suppressed 22 handgun could be handy inside in a pinch, but not as handy as a nice suppressed 9mm lol.

Shoot what is comfortable. If you do not like shooting it, dont. If you are not confident with a weapon, then it becomes more of a liability. I have had good luck personally and with others with working up. Beyond a 22, start small caliber and large framed. A big 9mm or a big revolver with standard 38s works pretty well to minimize recoil and get someone rolling. If available a suppressor will do wonders.

I shoot my 22 handgun enough that I would be confident to grab it in a pinch. 8 or ten hits from that will make any bg think pretty hard and help me to get out of the situation or get ahold of a rifle.

Keep up the good work OP!
 
I have 5 sisters so thanks for posting this one WifeofBleys.
one sis flat refuses to go shooting period she's an anti and 'man hater' too IMO.
another begrudgeingly will go 'plinking' if any of the 3 others (all enjoy shooting .22LR revolvers) go w/me.
of those 3 that enoy plinking all bought pistols and another a .22LR rifle another a 20ga H&R break open.
the one has a Taurus 941 she maybe twice a year practices with shooting up 'old ammo' and reloads it with MiniMags. @ 20' any man-sized target will be hit for sure. also she has bears comeing off the Blue Ridge Pkwy raiding her trash and chaseing cat but she just can't handle any thing bigger gun-wise, real shy type, I've brought .38's and .357 she just can't deal with it. but is fairly good with the .22LR.
the other 2 shoot more frequently maybe 6X year with revolver and/or long gun. the one with the Marlin 60 - well man you don't want to be on the receiving end of that thing (MiniMags) at 75' or you will be hurting. she can usually bust old apples and such after a bit of warm-up at 50yds.
the one with the 20ga loads #6 to pop soda bottles filled w/water hanging on limbs @ 20' but can do about as good with her revolver (bad eyes though) after 'warming up'
I stress to them to practice more often and even bring ammo when I go visit if I find 'sale' ammo. I usually check their guns for cleaning/maintenance.
 
I will have to talk her into a 92FS. I grew to love the Beretta as my side arm while in the Navy. I'm sure she would love it after shooting one or two mags..
 
A Beretta 92 series is worth a try if you can, for sure. Pretty easy on the hands, and sized fine for smaller hands a swell.(my hands are on the small side, and the M9 I shot in the army and 92 I've fired since felt fine). Also, if you shop around or online used ones are readily available, decently priced, and reliable. Of course, that's nothing that hasn't been said already!
For the record, I've kept a semi-auto .22lr at the bedside, as well as a .22WMR SA revolver and a .44 cap and ball revolver, so I can't exactly say you have to use something big. When I've had bigger, I've used it, but when I haven't, I learned to use what I had, rather than spend time complaining about what I didn't have.
 
Nice shooting, Wifeofbleys. I like your gun! :)

I only work in the pharmacy of a large hospital, but I've got plenty of friends in the ER. They tell me, and I have no reason to doubt them, that most of the gunshot wounds they get are with 22's. Quite a few don't survive.
Self defense people tell us that 22's are not really optimal for, well, self defense. They advise us to use as much caliber as we can comfortably shoot instead. I think it's more a matter of probablity than having too small of a caliber. Like if a bullet goes deep enough and makes a large enogh wound that it has a greater probablity to stop an attacker. I think I understood this right. Anyway it makes sense to me.
I doubt anyone who has survived a gunshot would complain less if he is shot with a small caliber than with a large one.
 
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I've got plenty of friends in the ER. They tell me, and I have no reason to doubt them, that most of the gunshot wounds they get are with 22's. Quite a few don't survive.
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I think the percentage of shootees that go directly to the morgue instead of the ER is a better statistical indication of a caliber's effectiveness than how many survive through the ER.
 
A wise man once said, "The first rule in a gunfight is to have a gun." A .22 is better than throwing rocks.
 
I think the percentage of shootees that go directly to the morgue instead of the ER is a better statistical indication of a caliber's effectiveness than how many survive through the ER.
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As I understand it: Even if the PT has obviously expired in the ambulance, EMTs need someone like a med examiner to pronounce them as dead. Some legal thing I guess. So they generally have to go to a hospital first with the PT.
 
We used to shoot empty Freon tanks at 300 meters with .45 ACP (200 gr SCW@800 fps) and were amazed to see entry AND exit holes in the tank. (once you find how much holdover it's really not that hard) They are relatively thin gauge steel though. With .22 ammo it would just dent the tank.
 
Dent the tank as in the back of the tank? I imagine that's what happened, but we don't know for sure and we didn't take photos.
 
I'd be more willing to trust someone who knows what they are doing with a .22 than a joker who went high caliber and doesn't.

That said, I personally still don't trust the .22 to stop a determined aggressor in as little time possible.
 
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