Or taking an umbrella while leaving a heavy coat behind.Planning for "the most likely thing", sounds an awful lot like just planning and practicing to only kick people in the nuts in a fist fight.
Or taking an umbrella while leaving a heavy coat behind.Planning for "the most likely thing", sounds an awful lot like just planning and practicing to only kick people in the nuts in a fist fight.
When it is 90* F. with nearly 100% relative humidity it makes sense to travel light. Not only discard the traditional tan belted raincoat yet even the comparatively lightweight GoreTex shell, too. Otherwise the wearer is overloaded, uncomfortable, and now soaked with sweat instead of just clean rainwater."…Or taking an umbrella while leaving a heavy coat behind…"
There's a reason these threads go on for 8 pages and counting with people not changing their minds. When I lived in the Chicago area I would question the wisdom of someone who carried a revolver as assaults by multiple assailants are common. I've heard all the arguments about situational awareness and how facing multiple assailants is a no win situation regardless of how many rounds you carry, but the fact is that if you're facing multiple attackers and can't escape, more capacity is better. That's one perspective. We moved to a small Wisconsin town a year and a half ago with no homicides 20 of the last 22 years. There were 10 one year and 13 another and no gang problems. If this is all you've experienced believing a 5 or 6 round revolver is sufficient is understandable. That's the other perspective I've seen. Good luck trying to get people who have only experienced one or the other to agree.
Planning for "the most likely thing", sounds an awful lot like just planning and practicing to only kick people in the nuts in a fist fight.
Ive never understood not trying to prepare for the unexpected, or difficult, and only focusing on the one or two things that you do well, and/or are told to expect. All that does is severely limit you, and anything out of the norm will likely be a big challenge.
The idea is, or at least to me the idea is, to try and be as well versed in all sorts of things, so, even if its not something you might get, its still probably going to be close enough to something youve done before in practice in the past, and youre able to adapt to things without having to try and wing it, and/or going into vapor lock.
And again, its all about being prepared, not just having a gun. One gives you a chance, the other is just weight.
I did not make my point well.When it is 90* F. with nearly 100% relative humidity
If your whole plan is to kick "everyone" in the balls, its not going to work out too well.Well, kicking someone in the balls is actually a pretty good plan for a fistfight. The folks at Krav Maga have pretty much built a curriculum around it!
In all seriousness, though, few if any of us have anything against a fellow who plans for even the most unlikely scenario. The argument really is about folks who are planning for unlikely events vs. folks who plan for extremely unlikely events. To carry on with the "umbrella" line, it's a bunch of people in the desert saying "I feel like carrying an umbrella every time I leave the house is adequate", and a bunch of other people in the desert saying "If you don't carry an umbrella, a raincoat, and an inflatable life raft, you're probably going to drown. Idiot."
Combined with the folks using math to prove that people without life rafts will drown in the desert, and the one guy arguing that life rafts are gonna get banned because some people don't see the need for them in the desert, you end up with some very strange threads.
If your whole plan is to kick "everyone" in the balls, its not going to work out too well.
And its not planning for "any" scenario, its working on things, that no matter how outlandish they may seem, your brain has all manner of things in the box that are familiar to it, so it can more easily just grab what it needs and is familiar with and go with the flow when things start to go south, and let you focus on the target and shooting, without having to think about how to do it. The whole point is to be flexible and adaptable, and as seamless as possible with that. You dont get that just doing the same one or two old things, over and over, and thinking it will cover anything you might get.
And by exploring all the different and difficult things you can in practice, you also up pretty quick, that when things start getting a bit more complicated, the round counts tend to start going up, especially when you understand that a few hits on a paper target that "score" well in practice, may not at all impress a real person, and you may have to keep shooting to get them down. 5 or 6 rounds can go pretty quickly if you arent shooting as well as you do when its easy, you have to shoot in ways you've never shot before, or the bad guy soaks them up and keeps coming, ect.
Well, kicking someone in the balls is actually a pretty good plan for a fistfight. The folks at Krav Maga have pretty much built a curriculum around it!
Training is not about scenarios. It is about developing skills.training scenarios which require high round counts does nothing to address the fact that very few real-life encounters require the same.
I believe that he carries a semi-auto....No, I'm not Jerry - he carries a 45 ACP revolver with full moon clips,
Pardon me, I should have clarified, he used a Smith and Wesson 45 ACP revolver for his world record setting demonstration of speed shooting and reloading, with full moon clips, as he has shown in some of his later videos. As for the man himself, I would be glad to buy him several beers just to listen to him reminisce.I believe that he carries a semi-auto....
Very few people ever have to defend themselves against criminal attackers. But when they do....
Recent incidents with more than one attacker:
Now everybody can envision the possibility of having more that one attacker, right? Nooo, I aint that naïve.
How this works... For someone content with low capacity or content with the notion of a single attacker, none of those count.
Possible reasons they don't count and this list is woefully incomplete:
-They don't work at a gas station
-In one the 2nd was a girl and she don't count
-They don't work at Dollar store
-They don't meet people to sell cars
-They don't live in Philly or Houston
A dozen examples won't matter because it wasn't their area, they don't do ____, they don't go to _____, criminals are immobile, psychic ability, ....
I aint wrong.
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Don’t ever fly in a plane, drive a car, walk in the rain because 4 incidents, possibly a hundred more do not make the odds greater by any significant level based on a population of over 300,000, 000! You cannot prepare for everything, only the likely thing! A pack of Hyenas can take down the strongest Lion. Having 16 shots is a small factor when engaging multiple targets. Do you have the skill set to even attempt to clear a room? Maybe you do but you would be in the minority!
I said a dozen wouldn't matter, I like the honesty that a hundred wouldn't matter.
Content with low capacity cites odds, which I left off my "woefully incomplete" list.
Increased capacity is a "small factor" when engaging multiple targets. LOL
Sig 365 vs snub - they are about the same size - 11 rounds vs 5
https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/smith-wesson-model-442-vs-sig-sauer-p365
Often rationalizing low capacity snub is really about unrequired shirt tucking and limiting oneself to pocket carry, Ruger LCP Max because muh pocket.
11 rounds in package that is smaller and lighter than the snub.
https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/smith-wesson-model-442-vs-ruger-lcp-max
And how many posting here fit that bill, and are telling us that 5 or 6 is all youll ever need because that's what they choose to carry, and based on what?Studies show most carriers never train at all.
LOL. Yea thats a fair "apples to apples" comparison.Couple guys, with no real world experience, rambling on…..
Are you somehow under the impression that persons with real worlds experience, such as Delf Bryce and Jim Cirillo, developed their shooting skills in actual combat, or that it is likely for anyone to do so?Couple guys, with no real world experience, rambling on…..