Is the .270 WIN/150 gr. - Just a Crappy .30-06...?

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I've been using a 30-06 for more than 50 years as has my brother with a .270. No one caliber killed any deer or elk more dead than the other. We just used the lowly cheap non-aerodynamically Remington core-lokt with virtually no BC year after year, decade after decade. Me the 165 grainers for the 06 and my brother the 150 for the .270. If there ever was going to be a perfect caliber for me and a much better one that have all been mentioned on this thread it would be the caliber that drops anything right on its tracks, skins and butchers everything like in the cartoons all in one shot. We are humans and fallible and our egos won't allows to accept our limitations to shooting accurately and consistently year after year. I just don't see our prey developing tougher skin where bullets bounce off. Simply we just don't hit our marks all the time or our prey is jacked up on drugs. There is peyote in the areas where I hunt mulies.
 
WisBorn said:
They have been arguing the merits of the 270 compared to 30-06 since 1925.

The fact is a well constructed 150 grain bullet fired from a 270, 280, or 30-06 will give you the same result at ethical ranges.

So why are we are discussing this???

Oh that's right we all need to use 375 magnums and get it done:thumbup:
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You forgot 300 Savage and a few others.
 
WestKentucky said:
By Remington it, do you mean introduce it as the next best whiz bang, immediately forget that you introduced it, not support it with ammo production, and discontinue rifles almost as soon as they start, or do you mean put out pisspoor quality guns that shoot when the safety is clicked off and that look like they lost a fight with the Krylon can? Maybe both?
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All of the above.....The way it went thru my head...cause im 5....was "dont give me something I want....then make it doodoo"
 
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WisBorn said:
Oh that's right we all need to use 375 magnums and get it done:thumbup:
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Hey, I never expressed any dislike for the 30-06. Grand old warhorse, that. Doesn't have the panache of a 6.5x55, but hits a good bit harder. Different tool in the toolbox from a 270. 308, though...squat toad of a round. Almost as good as a 30-06? Close only counts in horse shoes & hand grenades.

Don't get me started on 300BO.
 
js8588 said:
Hey, I never expressed any dislike for the 30-06. Grand old warhorse, that. Doesn't have the panache of a 6.5x55, but hits a good bit harder. Different tool in the toolbox from a 270. 308, though...squat toad of a round. Almost as good as a 30-06? Close only counts in horse shoes & hand grenades.

Don't get me started on 300BO.
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300 blackout is a 30 carbine for the ar15 platform. And, ironically, that's why I like it. It is funny looking though.
 
LoonWulf said:
Oh please do!....i get yelled at for hating that little thing......
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There's no logical reason for it to exist. Either down-load a 308 bolt gun or shoot a 45acp sub gun, which is really the job it's meant to do.

"I can shoot it at long range"

Uh, okay. Enjoy hitting your target with the muzzle energy of a 115gr 9mm (and that's at 200 yards where the drop is measured in feet not inches).

Would you trust that to take down a pissed off feral hog or a methed up Jihadi? No, I wouldn't either. I'll take the hydrostatic shock of a 556 round or better yet, a 6.5 Grendel.

If I need something up close & suppressed I'll take a nice 45acp. Bigger hole, same energy, just as quiet & a lot cheaper.
 
All this talks about calibers I find entertaining and hilarious. It's like the buyers that buy a .357 magnum but want to load to 38 special loads. Why not just buy a .38, or they buy a 44 magnum but want a lighter load, or your hunting and need a side arm for bears, why not just use the rifle you are hunting with.
 
adcoch1 said:
If the stock fits right though that isn't unreasonable for a hunting rifle. Nottingham acceptable for any volume shooting but fine for hunting.
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Told myself that for a year.

And then I sold the .30-06 for a .270 WIN... and my shooting improved.

...then I put a recoil pad on it.

In hindsight, the recoil pad may have saved the .30-06 as a bolt rifle hunting round for me.

But it sure makes the .270 WIN a sweet all-day shooter.




GR
 
js8588 said:
There's no logical reason for it to exist. Either down-load a 308 bolt gun or shoot a 45acp sub gun, which is really the job it's meant to do.

"I can shoot it at long range"

Uh, okay. Enjoy hitting your target with the muzzle energy of a 115gr 9mm (and that's at 200 yards where the drop is measured in feet not inches).

Would you trust that to take down a pissed off feral hog or a methed up Jihadi? No, I wouldn't either. I'll take the hydrostatic shock of a 556 round or better yet, a 6.5 Grendel.

If I need something up close & suppressed I'll take a nice 45acp. Bigger hole, same energy, just as quiet & a lot cheaper.
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Keh, not just me then :D

ms6852 said:
All this talks about calibers I find entertaining and hilarious. It's like the buyers that buy a .357 magnum but want to load to 38 special loads. Why not just buy a .38, or they buy a 44 magnum but want a lighter load, or your hunting and need a side arm for bears, why not just use the rifle you are hunting with.
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Well..cause.....I could actually come up with semi-reasonable arguments for all of those, but I enjoy these sorts of discussions so try to have both sides covered......

Garandimal said:
Told myself that for a year.

And then I sold the .30-06 for a .270 WIN... and my shooting improved.

...then I put a recoil pad on it.

In hindsight, the recoil pad may have saved the .30-06 as a bolt rifle hunting round for me.

But it sure makes the .270 WIN a sweet all-day shooter.




GR
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All you need is a good muzzle brake!!!

then better ear protection and new friends......

Ive never been a huge fan of fast sharp recoil, thus I like heavier guns and squishy pads.
JUST a squishy pad is enough that as @troy fairweather has joked, everyone wants a turn with the .375. It shoves you around but doesn't hurt....unless you go all bobble head and catch a face full of leupold...but ONE guy did that, nobody else.
 
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My Steyr Prohunter got a soft pad swapped in. It bumps but aint bad at all...150gr.

My .280 Ruger #1 hits me harder.
See how it goes late anterless season.
It might go bye bye after, and ill just stick w my boring .30-06, 35 rem and .243

Think 3 deer rifles is plenty.
 
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Hookeye said:
My Steyr Prohunter got a soft pad swapped in. It bumps but aint bad at all...150gr.

My .280 Ruger #1 hits me harder.
See how it goes late anterless season.
It might go bye bye after, and ill just stick w my boring .30-06, 35 rem and .243

Think 3 deer rifles is plenty.
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No such thing as plenty if the number is a single digit.
 
LoonWulf said:
Keh, not just me then :D


Well..cause.....I could actually come up with semi-reasonable arguments for all of those, but I enjoy these sorts of discussions so try to have both sides covered......


All you need is a good muzzle brake!!!

then better ear protection and new friends......

Ive never been a huge fan of fast sharp recoil, thus I like heavier guns and squishy pads.
JUST a squishy pad is enough that as @troy fairweather has joked, everyone wants a turn with the .375. It shoves you around but doesn't hurt....unless you go all bobble head and catch face full of leupold...but ONE guy did that, nobody else.
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I've learned with class 4 loads from my Siamese that a recoil pad can be to soft, other then feeling the butt stock under the pad with very heavy recoil the gun can twist of walk in weird ways it won't normally do.
 
Nature Boy said:
The .270 is to rifles what polyester was to men's fashions

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Where'd you find the pic of me from back in 1981?

On a serious note, a very entertaining thread. .30-30 vs. .270 vs. .30-06 vs. .308 was an annual debate in my family's Upper Michigan deer camp for a lotta years.

This one time in deer camp, cousin invited a guy who brought a ... .243.
 
Hookeye said:
My Steyr Prohunter got a soft pad swapped in. It bumps but aint bad at all...150gr.

My .280 Ruger #1 hits me harder.
See how it goes late anterless season.
It might go bye bye after, and ill just stick w my boring .30-06, 35 rem and .243

Think 3 deer rifles is plenty.
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Gonna have to let us know if you decide to sell that #1 hookeye...
 
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