Mosin-Nagant user thread
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sarduy
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I think the idea of having a MN club is great, that way we can help each other with questions and comments.
you guys have great and very nice rifles, so let's share mine with you guys
This is my M91/30 MO
And this is my Laminated M44
and this are 2 videos and i filmed about them, 1st is dedicated to all MN owners and the 2nd is just me shooting at 100 yards
video 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7uRFmUlTxEs
video 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=G1Z7y7O_xDA
you guys have great and very nice rifles, so let's share mine with you guys
This is my M91/30 MO
And this is my Laminated M44
and this are 2 videos and i filmed about them, 1st is dedicated to all MN owners and the 2nd is just me shooting at 100 yards
video 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7uRFmUlTxEs
video 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=G1Z7y7O_xDA
jpwilly
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Topkick, That is an ATI Scope and turned down bolt handle (requires cutting off the existing bolt drill and tap. The ATI scope mount requires you to drill and tap the reciever as well. It comes in a kit. I've done the same to one of my 91/30's. It looks like a Simmons Whitetail Classic is mated to it. Here's some of my collection:
Cosmoline
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I noticed something the other day about Finnish M91 sights. I've been trying to get into them, seeing as how these old, clunky beasts were in fact the ones used to rack up over 500 kills in the Winter War by history's greatest sniper. I haven't had a chance to test it yet, but it seems to me there is a second set of sights hidden on top of the first set.
The first set is, as you know, an old-fashioned tangent sight system with an arched rear tangent and a very simple blade front sight. Higher on the Finns than the Russians.
To aim you try to fit the very thin front blade in the equally thin rear notch, a feat that works fine at the range but not so great in a hurry or in bad lighting.
BUT if you will notice the two sides of the riser bracket the sight picture thusly:
]___[
If you ignore the notch and lift your head up slightly, the front blade fits between the RISERS, with its top equal to the top of the risers:
]_I_[
Now my bet is if someone were to aim at the target like this the bullet would have the same zero as the tangent's setting, because the barrel isn't moving just the height of your eyes. It is certainly much easier to get a clear sight picture with the blade fully exposed and no fine notch to fit it in. You just center the post between the risers and bang away, using your eye's natural desire to find the center to aim instead of deliberately trying to "thread the needle" with the fine sights.
If I'm correct, this is similar to the secondary sighting devices utilized in the 28/30 and M39 sight to center the post. And it should work particularly well with the Finns since they have a nice high front sight. Clever boys they were.
The first set is, as you know, an old-fashioned tangent sight system with an arched rear tangent and a very simple blade front sight. Higher on the Finns than the Russians.
To aim you try to fit the very thin front blade in the equally thin rear notch, a feat that works fine at the range but not so great in a hurry or in bad lighting.
BUT if you will notice the two sides of the riser bracket the sight picture thusly:
]___[
If you ignore the notch and lift your head up slightly, the front blade fits between the RISERS, with its top equal to the top of the risers:
]_I_[
Now my bet is if someone were to aim at the target like this the bullet would have the same zero as the tangent's setting, because the barrel isn't moving just the height of your eyes. It is certainly much easier to get a clear sight picture with the blade fully exposed and no fine notch to fit it in. You just center the post between the risers and bang away, using your eye's natural desire to find the center to aim instead of deliberately trying to "thread the needle" with the fine sights.
If I'm correct, this is similar to the secondary sighting devices utilized in the 28/30 and M39 sight to center the post. And it should work particularly well with the Finns since they have a nice high front sight. Clever boys they were.
james_bond
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I love My Mosin that is for sure.
Ok guys I had one back in 90 sold it cheap now I am seeing a rash of "sniper" versions in my area for $350 or so.
1.Where can you find reloadable brass
2.how are the old russian optics?
3.Is that a fair price? Not likely to be oridgionals but add on packages I suspect
1.Where can you find reloadable brass
2.how are the old russian optics?
3.Is that a fair price? Not likely to be oridgionals but add on packages I suspect
alemonkey
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I have one of the $35 type 53's from Omega. It was so dirty when I got it that I couldn't even see any rifling. It took a lot of cleaning but at least I can make out lands and grooves now. I tried shooting it once, but it wasn't striking the primer hard enough. I checked the firing pin protusion and it was slightly below the minimum, so I cranked it out to slightly below the max but I haven't tried it again yet. I suppose I should go ahead and buy a new firing pin spring for it.
Cosmoline
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1. From midway direct or other on-line source or by reusuing brass from Norma, S&B, Privi, or Winchester.
2. I don't care for them, but some people like them. They're simple and tough. The iron sights are better.
3. Seems pretty good for a replica. But I've seen some REALLY ratty replicas built on late-war receivers that are likely minute of barn. If you want a tack-driving Mosin there are vastly better options.
Cosmoline
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Things are getting out of control. It's time to take this thread IN HAND
thedudeabides
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Here's a blurry one with it's best friend:
Does anyone have any comments on the scope mounts that replace the rear site? I'm not a fan of drilling holes in Surplus rifles, but would like to reach out and touch stuff.
Does anyone have any comments on the scope mounts that replace the rear site? I'm not a fan of drilling holes in Surplus rifles, but would like to reach out and touch stuff.
Cosmoline
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Nobody will ever micturate on that rug.
Here's a thread where we discuss the scope mount issue. Darrell's is the one to get:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=335352
Here's a thread where we discuss the scope mount issue. Darrell's is the one to get:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=335352
jrou111
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Guess I'll be the first in this thread to post a pic of one of these...
Chinese Type 53 Mosin
I also have a 91/30.
Chinese Type 53 Mosin
I also have a 91/30.
Franco2shoot
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James,
Where'd the 10th shot go on that target? hehehehe You're pattern is pretty similar to my 91/30 results.
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Where'd the 10th shot go on that target? hehehehe You're pattern is pretty similar to my 91/30 results.
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MilsurpShooter
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Franco2shoot
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No picture..
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MaterDei
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I'll join you boys' club. I only have a single 91/30 but it won't be that way for long. I'll post pictures when I can.
I only have a single 91/30 but it won't be that way for long. I'll post pictures when I can.
sarduy
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WELCOME ABOARD
BorisDaBastid
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Heck, I'm in. Unfortunatly, I didn't take the last block leave (BDE's on it right now) before we're set to deploy, so I can't post any pictures of my 91. I managed to find some time to fire it over christmas, though, and it was more of a joy than my issue M4.
jrou111
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Franco,
Shot #10 went into a 1 gal milk jug and sprayed a 15ft ball of mist everywhere.
Shot #10 went into a 1 gal milk jug and sprayed a 15ft ball of mist everywhere.
dmftoy1
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FWIW the cheapest brass I've found is at Graf's . .so far it's shooting will in my 44.
Regards,
Dave
Regards,
Dave
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