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Out of morbid curiostiy, has anyone here ever set their sights out to 2000yards and tried to hit something? I've been tempted for a while now
 
What kind of condition are most MNs in? I've been wanting to get one, but the one at the local Gander Mountain is going for $150 and looks like it's been through every armed conflict in the history of man. I know looks don't always match how well it shoots, but they can be a good indicator of how the previous owner treated it. Is this usual for a MN, or should I try to find one that's better looking?
 
Gander mtn pass

I would pass... my experience is to keep looking since there seems to be a flood of MN's that surfaced. Best bet is going to be a gun show since you will be able to compare in side by side comparison test... Cosmoline did a nice tip sheet you might want to print and take along.

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Here's the Barrel Id on mine..

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Isn't the MN designed to be fired with the bayonet fixed? Might explain the high shot groups.

Cosmo, why would somebody want to urinate on the carpet???:confused:
 
J&G has Mosin's for $59.99 and you can add $10 for hand select or Hex receivers for $79.99.
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What's a hex receiver?

J&G looks pretty good, I'll be applying for my C&R in a few weeks so I think I'll wait and get one from them. Anyone know how long it takes for the C&R paperwork to go through?
 
Spitter,
While I haven't done 2000 yards, i've done 1000 yards and it was pretty close. BUT you have to be really able to have the right table to accurately gage the wind and of course some amount of corilois effect. Anyways good luck
-bix
 
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I have five:

Finnish M28 SY Civil Guards rifle (undated)
Finnish M39 VKT 1944
Finnish M39 "B" 1942
Russian M91/30 Tula 1942 replica PU sniper
Russian M91/30 Izhevsk 1943 ex-sniper

As for the question about the hex versus round receivers, look at the front top of the receiver (where it joins the barrel). The "hex" receivers have three polygonal sides while the round receivers are, well, rounded.

When the Russian Model 91/30 was developed, they went with a round receiver to simplify production. However, they still had many hex receivers laying around from before so those were also used to produce M91/30 rifles since they work just fine for that. All the hex receiver M91/30 rifles were made before WWII and the pre-WWII M91/30 rifles in general have better overall fit-n-finish compared to the wartime production examples. So the discriminating Mosin Nagant shopper wants the hex receiver rifles not because the hex receiver in itself is better, but that it is an easy to identify sign that the rifle was made in the worker's paradise during peacetime.

IMHO, round receiver rifles shoot just fine (both my Russian rifles are good shooters) but I've seen some that were clearly made in haste. The rear of the Mosin Nagant receivers is split in half and the two halves should be clean and even. On my Izhevsk, one side is thicker than the other. It doesn't affect the function of the rifle one bit, but it is unsightly compared to the well-machined halves of the hex receivers on my Finnish models. And I've seen receivers much worse than my Izhevsk.

However, I should mention that Moscow was never occupied during that war, and that probably matters more to the Russians than the way their wartime rifles look to American eyes. HTH.
 
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Franco2shoot, sounds like you need a little help getting pics up.
1. go to www.tinypic.com
2. click the browse button and get to the image you want.
3. hit upload
4. once it finishes and refreshes the screen, just click the link inside the box that says IMG Code for Forums & Message Boards
5. Paste the link in the desired thread


I should probably follow my own advice and post a pic of my 1944 M44 from Izhevsk. :eek:
 
I picked up a beat-up M44 and a pretty nice M38 a week ago. Bought 2 boxes of wolf gold ammo.

First time at the range with them, I was on the paper (50yds) with the M38 every shot. The M44... not one shot one the paper... aimed above, below, right, left, and right in the middle of the target... could not hit it once.

I calipered the wolf gold bullets... seem to be .308 or .309 or in between. I need to slug the M44 barrel and maybe reload for it with .310, .311 or .312 bullets.

Any other ideas? The M44 was for my son... I feel bad about getting him a rifle that can't hit a target at 50 yds.

Dang... the recoil, muzzle blast, and loudness of these things...!
 
have you barrel erosion checked... if it is out of round, I have been told, you can't hit squat. Then look to have it drilled and recrowned, or you just might need to get another.
 
Cosmo, why would somebody want to urinate on the carpet???
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It's a film reference to Thedudeabides' name.

The M44... not one shot one the paper... aimed above, below, right, left, and right in the middle of the target... could not hit it once.
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Are you sure it wasn't just shooting high? Check receiver screw tightness and make sure you clean it. You should at least be able to group, though Soviet carbines are often pretty inaccurate. The Polish M44's are much, much more accurate.
 
Cosmoline

Are you sure it wasn't just shooting high? Check receiver screw tightness and make sure you clean it. You should at least be able to group, though Soviet carbines are often pretty inaccurate. The Polish M44's are much, much more accurate.

I know the feeling, I finally put a custom barrel on my 91/30 to get the thing shooting decently. The old barrel was accurate to about 2-3 MOA @100 yards but I wanted 1 MOA @ 400 yards.

You can buy a good used barrel and replace it.
Take it easy
-bix
 
My question concerns the slings. Every sling I get when I buy a Mosin is old and almost always has cosmoline on it. Not covered, but smeared on it somewhere.

Is there a way to clean these things or does anyone have a source for "new" ones. I don't want to order from someplace that I am unfamiliar with that advertises "new" slings and when I get them, they too have cosmoline.

Thanks.
 
First time at the range with them, I was on the paper (50yds) with the M38 every shot. The M44... not one shot one the paper... aimed above, below, right, left, and right in the middle of the target... could not hit it once.

I calipered the wolf gold bullets... seem to be .308 or .309 or in between. I need to slug the M44 barrel and maybe reload for it with .310, .311 or .312 bullets.
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Bender, don't give up on that baby. Mine with a pristine barrel did exactly the same thing. I loaded her up with some .312's and now she's one of the better shooters in my growing mil-surp collection.

Regards,
Dave
 
Every sling I get when I buy a Mosin is old and almost always has cosmoline on it. Not covered, but smeared on it somewhere.
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I get a bucket of hot water mixed with Simple Green degreaser and just submerge the sling in it for about 10 minutes. Repeat if necessary and then set it on top of some old newspaper to dry under a lamp. HTH.
 
Franco2shoot,

No it doesn't place the image as an attachment. I do this on most forums I post on specifically to save them some bandwidth and disk space by not having to keep my images on their servers.
I just keep a text file on my desktop with the links listed under categories and copy + paste as needed.
 
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