Will President Trump be the greatest gun seller of all time?

[Aim1]

No doubt President Obama so far has been one of the if not greatest gun seller of all time. With his anti-gun agenda when he became president American citizens bought up plenty of guns in fear of his executive actions and anti-gun push.

Many people thought that when Trump got elected gun sales would plummet since Trump ran on a Pro-2nd Amendment platform and that since a President Trump would not be pushing anti-gun policies that gun sales would come to an abrupt halt.

Well, that's not the case as many liberals and many who are first time gun owners specifically are buying guns for the first time in fear of a US ran by President Trump. They believe that all of the so called deplorables, the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, and Islamophobic that supposedly put Trump in the Whitehouse will come after them.

I actually think this is a good thing. This is making many anti-gun people become gun people even if against their will. Most of these people will most likely take gun safety classes and learn about their rights. It's hard being anti-gun if you own a gun or guns.

Singlehandedly Trump has created many new gun owners and specifically many new gun owners who were most likely anti-gun people until recently. That's huge. I think it will have a large impact on a lot of people. So much for the "Super Owner" which was current gun owners who merely added to their large collections, thus the anti's saying that most guns are owned by just a minute segment of the population.

So, will President Trump be the greatest gun seller of all time and have the most impact as president putting guns in the hands of more Americans than anyone else?




http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/21/bbc-even-liberals-buying-guns-trump/

BBC: Even Liberals Are Buying Guns Under Trump
by AWR HAWKINS21 Dec 2016

On December 20, the BBC pointed out that the “traditional” image of the American gun buyer is shifting under Donald Trump; even liberals are making gun purchases.

In fact, the “Liberal Gun Club,” which is “an actual club” with nine chapter and members in all 50 states,” says it saw a “huge” increase in interest once Trump was elected, as well as a subsequent surge in membership.

But the BBC suggests that “left-wingers” are not buying guns for the same reasons that people on the “right wing” side of the political spectrum might. In fact, BBC suggests “left-wingers” are buying guns to protect themselves from right-wingers and to prepare for “the collapse of society.”

But Clara asserts, “Trump’s election has mobilized a lot of the far right and given them hope,” and this means it is time to buy a gun. “Things are already escalating and they will continue to do so and me not engaging or being prepared to defend my friends by force … isn’t going to stop people from being attacked or harassed.”

 

[Twiki357]

I will wait and see.

I still have those three little words of his floating around in the back of my mind: “Everything is negotiable.”

 

[Panzerschwein]

Well he's better than the alternative.

We shall see how it goes.

 

[Tirod]

Many people thought that when Trump got elected gun sales would plummet since Trump ran on a Pro-2nd Amendment platform and that since a President Trump would not be pushing anti-gun policies that gun sales would come to an abrupt halt.

I frequent a few forums and that is the first I have heard of it.

Think about it - what reason would gun enthusiasts have to stop buying guns just because a politician was elected - or not? If you plan on owning certain firearms - say, a complete collection of S&W 3Gen autos, or you are saving up for a Wilson, Cabot, or Nighthawk 1911 - what does electing Trump mean to those plans? You suddenly just dispense with the notion because - ? Not hardly, you keep on doing exactly what you did in the past. If anything, with the idea that there won't be a panic, you might consider buying MORE because prices will remain low. Your dollars go further, you own more guns, happy you.

Sales abruptly halt? As in, gun stores closing over the winter, firearms makers going out of business, ammo and AK importers stop shipping, off shore 1911 makers closing the factories and blaming the US for loss of jobs? FN, SIG, HK, Beretta, Colt, Ruger, Remington all shut down and lay off thousands?

I don't think conservatives put that kind of trust on what Trump will do to make them safe. Still too many gas station robberies, rapes, and workplace shootings going on. Another generation enters the workplace every year, another generation decides they want to own firearms for self protection. It's about a million people a year. Half will become firearms owners. Once they start, they keep buying until they own at least half a dozen, likely before they turn 35.

I'm not seeing any valid reason for them to suddenly toss those plans out the window just from an election. We will keep buying guns. As much as the Obama years? Maybe more. Depends on what discretionary income we have. $4.50 a gallon gas will have a much bigger impact.

 

[AlexanderA]

So, will President Trump be the greatest gun seller of all time and have the most impact as president putting guns in the hands of more Americans than anyone else?

It would be hard to outdo Obama in this regard. But there is one specific area in which Trump could sell a lot of guns -- if he declared a machine gun amnesty or spearheaded NFA reform. With the Hughes Amendment gone, lots of people would be buying full automatics, even if they still had to pay the transfer tax and wait months for approval.

 

[WestKentucky]

Depends on a few things. How scary is he toward the liberals, how scary does the media make him, and what (if any) changes in importation restrictions are put in place. If we bring back the warehouses of hardware marked as government property then collectors will go wild. If good guns come in at affordable prices then the general population will buy.

One thing to note, AR abundance is a big deal. They are still getting cheaper and more companies are marketing them. Low prices drive multiple realms of buyers.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

For the reasons that so many guns were purchased under Obama, not as many are going to be sold under Trump, not from retailers.

 

[Dog Soldier]

I rarely believe anything in the British press regarding firearms. This sounds like Trump is creating fear. They like to compare Trump to a Nazi.
The real facts are. Trump is a proud NRA Member. He has a CCW and his sons are shooters and hunters. His election was promoted by the NRA. Not since Teddy Roosevelt have we had a President that has promoted shooting.

 

[Walkalong]

So, will President Trump be the greatest gun seller of all time and have the most impact as president putting guns in the hands of more Americans than anyone else?

Not a chance.

Even Liberals Are Buying Guns Under Trump

They were buying them under Obama as well.

 

[JohnBiltz]

I can't think of a bad side to liberals buying guns. As to what we get from Trump, A favorable Supreme Court Judge is all I really want. I don't see machine guns being on the table. Too much potential political downside to making machine guns legal. The first time one gets used in a mass shooting it will be a nightmare. Might gets suppressors and short barrelled rifles in.

 

[Dog Soldier]

The Elitist Liberals who own firearms believe they should be the only ones. They see the NRA and especially people in the South as paranoid and unstable. They like the Euro-Socialist believe that only the Coastal Elite should own guns.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023138915

 

[basicblur]

Who knows, but if he follows the recommendations of the working group his son is heading, I see exploding sales for silencers and SBR's.
I know I have some money waiting for both of those events...

Until someone gets a handle on the crime problem, I don't know how much gun sales are going to drop off, if any.

No more time than I spend hanging around a couple of local gun shops, I see a ton of women buying guns. I assume this is because they've finally realized violent crime (most which seems to be driven by drugs) is on the rise, and it's time they started taking their personal defense...well, personally!

The ATF visited the most popular gun shop in our area to check up on him - seems his shop got flagged for the "excessive" number of women buying guns. I assume they thought they were probably straw purchases, but nothing of the sort.

LE (privately) tells us our little 'burb is now the most violent city in the state.

Locals came to that realization long before official figures were crunched and are arming up appropriately.

 

[Speedo66]

Liberals will not be buying guns, part of their makeup is complaining about being a victim. This will not change.

Personally, I see machine guns as a novelty, no real use to me. I'd prefer to see a total revision of the law re: silencers. This would be a healthy change that has real world effects for all shooters. Too much hearing loss out there. Tossing the entire licensing bit and allowing people to create their own low cost suppressors would be very much welcomed by all involved in shooting sports.

If Trump can pull that off I'd be very happy. His bent for business might preclude self made items though. I recall an interview his son had with a suppressor manufacturer, so there will be lobbying against it.

 

[Dickmeister]

We need a universal CCW law so our permits are recognized in every state. I'll bet Trump gets that bill passed.

 

[basicblur]

We need a universal CCW law so our permits are recognized in every state. I'll bet Trump gets that bill passed.

I've heard numerous industry / legal folks on podcasts recently say:
1. We do NOT want something "universal" (as in a national CCW law).
2. We DO want reciprocity (as with your driver's license).

 

[Dickmeister]

I hear you on that. I believe reciprocity is what Trump is pushing for. I have never head of a national CCW permit.

 

[reddog81]

What does the liberal gun club consider a "huge increase in interest" to be?

People were buying like crazy under Obama due to panic and fear of items being banned. Hopefully that buying will disappear under Trump. I can't see liberals buying gun after gun and scooping up all the ammo they can afford.

Hopefully he will expand the market by loosening suppressor and SBR restrictions.

Hopefully the renewed interest in firearms by the general public is large enough to keep the sales from plummeting.

 

[basicblur]

I have never head of a national CCW permit.

There are some out there arguing for some type of national permit.

I also heard an excellent podcast the other day with the SAF - went into detail on their strategies with upcoming SCOTUS candidates.

Many cases lined up and ready to go, but they may wait for two justices to be replaced before pushing forward. Seems if they push forth with just one replacement, the SCOTUS could refuse to hear the case, thus allowing lower court rulings to stand.

If they wait until two SCOTUS justices are replaced, then the court will probably vote to take the cases they have ready to present before them.

This is assuming all new justices will be 2nd Amendment friendly.

 

[Dickmeister]

This is assuming all new justices will be 2nd Amendment friendly.

They better be!

 

[Dog Soldier]

I am a born "Rebel" I suppose. I don't want the Federals taking over the regulation of concealed carry freedoms. The concept of concealed carry was born and established as a state rights issue. Why would I want to turn this over to a Liberal Senator from NYC?

 

[sorebutton]

I live in a VERY liberal city, and I have heard of exactly 0 people with a new interest in guns. That's a bunch of hooey. There ARE "liberals" that enjoy guns. Heck, there are entire online communities dedicated to this, often with the idea of removing anti-gun stances from the party platform. Some of you above really don't fit the "high road" model.

I'm too lazy to go back and look who, but whichever of you said violent crime is way up is flat out wrong. Maybe in a few areas, but as a whole crime rates continue to fall. Heck, that has been one of the main points of those saying an increase in CCW has not had a negative effect.

 

[salt&battery]

No doubt President Obama so far has been one of the if not greatest gun seller of all time. With his anti-gun agenda when he became president American citizens bought up plenty of guns in fear of his executive actions and anti-gun push.

Many people thought that when Trump got elected gun sales would plummet since Trump ran on a Pro-2nd Amendment platform and that since a President Trump would not be pushing anti-gun policies that gun sales would come to an abrupt halt.

Well, that's not the case as many liberals and many who are first time gun owners specifically are buying guns for the first time in fear of a US ran by President Trump. They believe that all of the so called deplorables, the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, and Islamophobic that supposedly put Trump in the Whitehouse will come after them.

I actually think this is a good thing. This is making many anti-gun people become gun people even if against their will. Most of these people will most likely take gun safety classes and learn about their rights. It's hard being anti-gun if you own a gun or guns.

Singlehandedly Trump has created many new gun owners and specifically many new gun owners who were most likely anti-gun people until recently. That's huge. I think it will have a large impact on a lot of people. So much for the "Super Owner" which was current gun owners who merely added to their large collections, thus the anti's saying that most guns are owned by just a minute segment of the population.

So, will President Trump be the greatest gun seller of all time and have the most impact as president putting guns in the hands of more Americans than anyone else?




http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/21/bbc-even-liberals-buying-guns-trump/

Wow this is great news. I love when ammo prices go thru the roof and guns along with them and both being scarce. I really think like the polls taken up to the election this story is a lot of bull and it seems like they are trying to foment the left into taking up arms against trump

 

[Sistema1927]

Most of these people will most likely take gun safety classes and learn about their rights.

I think that you are engaged in wishful thinking.

Do I believe that Donald Trump will be a greater gun seller than Barack Obama? Not likely, but I am hoping that he will be great for the suppressor market.

 

[ColoradoShooter77]

I think the big sales rush right now has a lot to do with manufacturers trying to unload inventory, that they ramped up before the election. I haven't seen deals this good across the board, in 10 years.

They're not buying out of fear, its all the sales going on right now.

 

[Tinpig]

Liberals have made it so hard to buy guns in Massachusetts that many of them would be unable to meet the licensing requirements here.
Actually, I wish liberals would start buying guns to defend themselves, even if their fears are imaginary. Hanging out at gun stores and shooting ranges and forums like this would expose them to the huge emphasis on safety and personal responsibility that is a big part of the law-abiding gun culture. And to the pure pleasure of shooting. They just have no idea.

However, living here, exposed to liberal media and liberals day in and day out, I have seen absolutely no indication at all that liberals now want to buy guns. For the most part they still appear to believe that the election was a mistake and that a combination of vilifying Trump and his supporters, outright denial, recall elections, spurious charges of voter fraud, pointless recounts, and electoral college manipulation is going to restore their beloved Hillary to her rightful position. They still don't see that the election was about the total failure of the established Democrat and Republican parties to represent the American people. They're too busy crying and denying and de-legitimizing to comprehend what the election really meant, let alone act on it, or even try to learn from it.

Tinpig