I've been hunting since the mid 1970's. I've ran across 2 hunters in that time carrying a 30-30. I have several, but rarely hunt with them. Sometimes after watching a John Wayne move I'll feel nostalgic. In my opinion it is the most OVER rated cartridge out there. It was obsolete 5 years before the 1st rifle was ever made and a huge step backwards in rifle and cartridge development. Sure, it kills stuff, but so do muzzle loaders, arrows, and spears. The day it was introduced it didn't offer anyone any advantages over cartridges that were already available.