This one has a lot of irrelevant rants. I'm open to actually discussing this move and how it affects gun ownerships. Trips to the concentration camps, Germans, etc. - lot of silliness. Discuss the referendum or let's call it quits.
I lived in Germany in the early 70's. For part of that time (a year or so) I had a Swiss roommate. She told me that during the Third Reich the Swiss farmers were standing armed in the roads to prevent the Nazis taking over their country.Seems the Swiss follow the money, always have, even during WWII. Threaten to curtail it and they're apparently willing to give up basic rights without a struggle.
"We're independent, not part of the EU", however they'll do whatever it takes to make a profit off them as long as they don't have to officially open their borders.
The Swiss culture (at least in the German Swiss areas) is a big factor too. In 1975 I visited Zurich. I don't remember the exact location of this experience but I wanted to cross a street which had literally no traffic and the nearest traffic lights were quite far in both directions, so I stepped off the curb. A passing pedestrian informed me that I was not allowed to cross there, only where there was a traffic light. Oh, and don't drop a gum wrapper on the sidewalk either. (Not something I would do anyway, but I saw someone else get scolded for doing so.)low crime in Switzerland which is more demographics than folks with Mausers and Sig 550s fighting criminals.
You can bet the free roamers will be the ones armed.The "free movement of people within Europe" is that really a good thing?
Imagine border checks between individual US states.
It's actually a good thing for Americans. Once you arrive in Europe, you don't have to worry about passport checks and customs inspections as you go from country to country.The "free movement of people within Europe" is that really a good thing?
Hmm, I'm imagining that it might be a good idea between some of them.
The Swiss story
Folks don't mention the Swedes. They were in the same position. They traded with the Germans and allowed troop movement.
But in the final paragraph: "Nothing changes, however, for soldiers ..... Even for hunters, everything remains the same." ..........????????
Some AZ government official recently joked (or not?) that we should have that at the Cali border!Hmm, I'm imagining that it might be a good idea between some of them.
Personally I have no interest in ever going back to Europe.It's actually a good thing for Americans. Once you arrive in Europe, you don't have to worry about passport checks and customs inspections as you go from country to country.
The Schengen agreement actually has two aspects:
1. For outsiders, such as Americans, the external European border is all they have to be concerned with. Once inside, it's like traveling within one big country.
2. For Europeans, they can live and work in any Schengen country. A Polish plumber can go and ply his trade in Spain. Obviously, a passport from any European country thus becomes far more valuable.
The germans.....they start a few world wars and fail to take over europe.....they have figured out another way to do it.
Personally I have no interest in ever going back to Europe.
Why is that?Personally I have no interest in ever going back to Europe.