For the stray elephant roaming the mtns of NC...
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Choctaw
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I really don't either. However, I still wouldn't mind owning a No. 1 chambered in 458 as a "just because" gun. That is one beautiful rifle.
When a teenager working for my Dad building houses for people, one customer had a Win 70 in .375 H&H as his only hunting rifle. He used factory ammo on his hunts in Alaska for bear and moose. Handloaded cast lead bullets for deer and elk locally in northwest Oregon.
A .458 would do as well.
A .458 would do as well.
Catpop
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Beautiful rifle, esp. the wood! When i looked at it, my right shoulder said, "Don't even go there catpop!"
tark
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Beautiful gun , and....OH! Honey! I just saw an elephant tearing up our cornfield... we better do something about that We need.....
I want
I'm gonna get....
I want
I'm gonna get....
zb338
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My Son bought a Browning bolt action in .458. Him and his
buddies were shooting it without shirts or jackets on and
showing off their black & blue marks. I asked if it was sighted
in and they said yes. I put it across a bench rest at 100 yds. It
wasn't sighted in. I took one shot and knew I needed something.
I took a small phone book I had in my car and stuck it in my jacket.
The gun was not sighted in. I put it right on at 100 yds. It had a
scope on it and I was worried about it smacking me in the head.
It did shoot very well. Two inch groups all the time, with handloads.
buddies were shooting it without shirts or jackets on and
showing off their black & blue marks. I asked if it was sighted
in and they said yes. I put it across a bench rest at 100 yds. It
wasn't sighted in. I took one shot and knew I needed something.
I took a small phone book I had in my car and stuck it in my jacket.
The gun was not sighted in. I put it right on at 100 yds. It had a
scope on it and I was worried about it smacking me in the head.
It did shoot very well. Two inch groups all the time, with handloads.
200Apples
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Don't forget! the fondle factor...
Don't forget! the fondle factor...
haywoodhunter
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Really like that stock! Nice to see another from the nc mountains on here
AStone
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Despite my rather sarcastic post above from last night about the effect of this rifle on a deer <ahem>,
I'll add my vote to the list of approval and say that it IS a beautiful rifle.
And more than that, an interesting concept, especially in an age when semi-autos are so plentiful.
Do you have an idea of how old it is? Obviously, well cared for.
I suspect it's also one that I'd watch you shoot rather than shoot it myself, especially with full power rounds.
I'll add my vote to the list of approval and say that it IS a beautiful rifle.
And more than that, an interesting concept, especially in an age when semi-autos are so plentiful.
Do you have an idea of how old it is? Obviously, well cared for.
I suspect it's also one that I'd watch you shoot rather than shoot it myself, especially with full power rounds.
Barrett93
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It's actually not very old. About a 1992 model. And I just got through working up some full power loads behind a 450 grain Barnes TSX BULLET. We will see how they fare this weekend.
When people wonder why one could need such a powerful rifle, I have a powerful argument in favor as I live about 1.5 hrs north of Zanesville Ohio where a mentally disturbed man turned loose about 50 exotic animals including multiple bears, lions & tigers.
The fact that local law enforcement was able to deal with the situation using .40 S&W's, AR-15's, .308 & a 7mm mag by pouring in a lot of fire has no bearing on the matter.
http://americanhandgunner.com/lions-and-tigers-and-bears-for-real/
The fact that local law enforcement was able to deal with the situation using .40 S&W's, AR-15's, .308 & a 7mm mag by pouring in a lot of fire has no bearing on the matter.
http://americanhandgunner.com/lions-and-tigers-and-bears-for-real/
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Scrumbag
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Very nice wood.
One day I hope to have a 404 Jeffrey and put it to good use.
Scrummy
One day I hope to have a 404 Jeffrey and put it to good use.
Scrummy
critter
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I have a #1 in 45-70. I've shot all levels of loads in it. Don't need any more 'horsepower'! That 45-70 WILL thump a deer or hog here in the S. AR thickets. Not much need for tracking after the shot.
That is much prettier than my Ruger in .458, which I got for the same reason, just because I wanted one. I wish I could still see the sights well enough not to scope it, but it is what it is.
It was a bit rough sighting in on a concrete bench. I should have used a pad under my bare elbow which was getting drug across on the bench top.
Yep.
It was a bit rough sighting in on a concrete bench. I should have used a pad under my bare elbow which was getting drug across on the bench top.
With the big boomers, sight in standing up with a tripod rest. Yes, it's not quite as accurate as a bench, but you're not going to be target shooting with a 458. It's a whole lot more pleasant to shoot that way.
IWAC
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BEAUTIFUL!!!
Now, all you have to do is get a tag for feral Brahma bulls, or maybe Tyrannosaurus Rex, and you're all set!
Being a handloader, you could look up the Hodgdon site, and see what they have to say about a "youth load" for your Loudenboomer!
Now, all you have to do is get a tag for feral Brahma bulls, or maybe Tyrannosaurus Rex, and you're all set!
Being a handloader, you could look up the Hodgdon site, and see what they have to say about a "youth load" for your Loudenboomer!
BCRider
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A fine rifle dressed in some very nice looking wood. I'd say you've got a keeper there.
And since this is clearly a round which begs to be reloaded you have full control over how much recoil you're OK with. Big rounds can be toned down easily enough but retain the option to bark loudly when required.
And since this is clearly a round which begs to be reloaded you have full control over how much recoil you're OK with. Big rounds can be toned down easily enough but retain the option to bark loudly when required.
CoalTrain49
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I like it's smaller brother on the right. But you just never know when you will need to shoot a white Rhino escapy.
Curator
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Always better to have it and not need it------
I ended up with a .458 Win Mag that I built for a friend (always a dumb idea) who was planning a "big 5" trip to Africa. He had supplied the magnum bolt action and a beautiful piece of wood. I supplied the hand-lapped Douglas (1 in 14") barrel and the labor. A month before he was to board the plane, his Father-in-law bought him a M70 Winchester in .458 so he cancelled the order. I got the gun for what he owed me. I have not seen him since.
What a hoot to shoot! One box of factory 500 grain solids and I was investigating "black-powder" level loads with cast bullets. The gun is a tack driver with 450 grain cast bullets at 1450 fps. Kind'a like a .45-70 on steroids with a magazine, no less! The combination of the long length of pull and the wide, flat recoil pad helps to keep "scope-eye" and shoulder bruising under control. Shooting off the bench is do-able provided you sit high and not hunch over the gun.
Every gun cabinet should have at least one serious big bore rifle. You never know when a Bengal tiger or Tyrannosaurus Rex might terrorize the neighborhood.
I ended up with a .458 Win Mag that I built for a friend (always a dumb idea) who was planning a "big 5" trip to Africa. He had supplied the magnum bolt action and a beautiful piece of wood. I supplied the hand-lapped Douglas (1 in 14") barrel and the labor. A month before he was to board the plane, his Father-in-law bought him a M70 Winchester in .458 so he cancelled the order. I got the gun for what he owed me. I have not seen him since.
What a hoot to shoot! One box of factory 500 grain solids and I was investigating "black-powder" level loads with cast bullets. The gun is a tack driver with 450 grain cast bullets at 1450 fps. Kind'a like a .45-70 on steroids with a magazine, no less! The combination of the long length of pull and the wide, flat recoil pad helps to keep "scope-eye" and shoulder bruising under control. Shooting off the bench is do-able provided you sit high and not hunch over the gun.
Every gun cabinet should have at least one serious big bore rifle. You never know when a Bengal tiger or Tyrannosaurus Rex might terrorize the neighborhood.
browningguy
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Very nice, I picked up one in 9.3x74 earlier this year. But the elephants in Texas are smaller so it should be good enough.
200Apples
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^ ^ ^ eastbank, your collection never fails to impress!
It should. But until I acquire a .375 and/or a .458, I must make ready for elephant or polar bear here in the suburbs of western Los Angeles with one of my twelve-gauge Wingmasters wearing a 24" rifled-bore, rifle-sights saboted slug barrel. It's magazine is filled with Hornady SST.
Please forgive this little detour. I sometimes cannot help myself. Back to the discussion of a proper elephant (or any other of the Fatal Five) gun!
^ ^ ^ eastbank, your collection never fails to impress!
It should. But until I acquire a .375 and/or a .458, I must make ready for elephant or polar bear here in the suburbs of western Los Angeles with one of my twelve-gauge Wingmasters wearing a 24" rifled-bore, rifle-sights saboted slug barrel. It's magazine is filled with Hornady SST.
Please forgive this little detour. I sometimes cannot help myself.
Back to the discussion of a proper elephant (or any other of the Fatal Five) gun!
200Apples
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vaupet
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beautiful rifle
It is probably because this kind of rifle that you people got rid of all the elephants in the us of A
But I am under the impression it is not the kind you want to shoot groups with, it is more a one-shot-per-hunting-season thing, imho
It is probably because this kind of rifle that you people got rid of all the elephants in the us of A
But I am under the impression it is not the kind you want to shoot groups with, it is more a one-shot-per-hunting-season thing, imho
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