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Just use a Q-Tip dipped in Mineral Spirits or Acetone. The latter will work really fast and bring out the beautiful shine of the metal, but if you don't apply it with extreme caution you might eat away some of the wood finish around it. Mineral spirits should work just fine.
Afterwards just rub and dry the area with a rag.
Afterwards just rub and dry the area with a rag.
Ill look into that but I'm only 20 in case its another hurdle American youth can't jump till were 21. It would be really nice to not have to pay transfer fees.I got two words for ya
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Really tho....look into it...I will not say it will save you any money....but all that money you do spend you will get MORE STUFF
dak0ta
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Okay so I went over the stock with hot water, then sprayed it down and worked the nooks and crannies with WD-40 (mineral spirits), and got the caked on stuff off. Then washed off the WD-40 with a rag soaked in hot water. Now letting the stock dry. How long should I let it dry?
I'm also thinking of putting some paste wax on the stock to protect, give it some shine, and add some more water resistance. Some parts of the stock have had the shellac shaved off (i.e. near the barrel bands). My question is whether paste wax will adhere to the shellac readily.
Once that's done, I'm just going to reassemble and leave the gun historically correct. It is very tempting to strip the shellac and stain it or just add BLO, but I think it'll be worth more in the future as a 1943 battle rifle in original condition.
I'm also thinking of putting some paste wax on the stock to protect, give it some shine, and add some more water resistance. Some parts of the stock have had the shellac shaved off (i.e. near the barrel bands). My question is whether paste wax will adhere to the shellac readily.
Once that's done, I'm just going to reassemble and leave the gun historically correct. It is very tempting to strip the shellac and stain it or just add BLO, but I think it'll be worth more in the future as a 1943 battle rifle in original condition.
Randomhero27
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heres a question for anyone that reloads or knows something about it.
Is it possible to reload the spent brass from surplus 7.62x54r ammo?
im new to reloading and contemplating picking up the Lee Classic Loader just so i can get into it and understand it a bit better. I realize that surplus cost much less than making your own from say preloaded PRVI or WOLF and reusing the brass, but you dont get the "quality" and the feeling of knowing you made your own bullets. however, if im able to reload the surplus brass, then it all comes out to be pretty cheap. anyone know?
Is it possible to reload the spent brass from surplus 7.62x54r ammo?
im new to reloading and contemplating picking up the Lee Classic Loader just so i can get into it and understand it a bit better. I realize that surplus cost much less than making your own from say preloaded PRVI or WOLF and reusing the brass, but you dont get the "quality" and the feeling of knowing you made your own bullets. however, if im able to reload the surplus brass, then it all comes out to be pretty cheap. anyone know?
toivo
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but the surplus ammo isn't brass -- it's all steel-case. I'm not a reloader, but my understanding is that you can't reload steel cases.
Shadow 7D
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it's not the steel part that's difficult (though it is a bit harder on your dies)
but the fact that it's Berdan primed, which makes it rather difficult, you have to get a little claw tool to extract the primer, and you have to find Berdan primers, and that's a bit hard
Now there is a way to convert a case, also ALOT of work, and usually only done on calibers that are now nonexistent.
but the fact that it's Berdan primed, which makes it rather difficult, you have to get a little claw tool to extract the primer, and you have to find Berdan primers, and that's a bit hard
Now there is a way to convert a case, also ALOT of work, and usually only done on calibers that are now nonexistent.
Randomhero27
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well, since im still new to guns and mosins, im gonna admit i didnt know surplus was steel cased. i knew the bullets were steel core. or maybe i have that wrong.
ive had my mosin a month and bought 120rds that the cases resembled brass, so i just went with it.
Yeah, some of the surplus ammo ive seen have brownish cases. Really for reloading, youll want to take a look for Prvi Patizan cases if you can find them. The only other options of readily available cases are Lapua or Norma. I load all the ammo i shoot in my nagant, near MOA accuracy verse 4-5"s with surplus.
The partizan is some of the best deal going in brass right now IMHO. The others are kinda spendy. I usually pickup a box or two...they also have some other off the wall old military stuff, 7.5 French, 6.5 Carcano just to name a few....what I do is buy it...shoot it collect all I can find then reload....problem is that the SVT and PSL both like to launch the brass into low earth orbit and I always endup missing a few. If I go to the real range it is not as big a problem, but out behind the house in the grass...the stuff is just gone.
Grunt
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Keep in mind that once upon a time, Springfields, 1917 Enfields and Krags were also considered "a mass produced gun, worth less than $100, with no collector value." Even in more recent times, I got my rearsenaled M44 a few years ago for about $70. Other than getting the cosmoline off, it's still the same as when it was packed away years ago. Look at gunbroker and see how much an unmolested M44 is going for now days! On one hand, my advise would be if you are going to change things on an old Nagant, don't cut anything and don't throw anything that you can't change it back to its original condition years down the road when they are worth a lot more. On the other hand, I tend to be a big advocate of cutting metal, wood doing weld jobs and so on. Reason is that it makes my original condition guns worth more!
Keep in mind that once upon a time, Springfields, 1917 Enfields and Krags were also considered "a mass produced gun, worth less than $100, with no collector value." Even in more recent times, I got my rearsenaled M44 a few years ago for about $70. Other than getting the cosmoline off, it's still the same as when it was packed away years ago. Look at gunbroker and see how much an unmolested M44 is going for now days! On one hand, my advise would be if you are going to change things on an old Nagant, don't cut anything and don't throw anything that you can't change it back to its original condition years down the road when they are worth a lot more. On the other hand, I tend to be a big advocate of cutting metal, wood doing weld jobs and so on. Reason is that it makes my original condition guns worth more!
Lone_Sheep_Dog
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I have to agree with Grunt on this. Most Mosins are cheap now, but they will be collectible and valuable in the future if they are not modified. Especially since so many people are butchering them.
EmbarkChief
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I'm not so sure about the price going up much. The Russians built somewhere in the ballpark of 37 million of them. It wasn't that long ago that you could buy SKS's for $100, now they run upward of $200. However "only" 15 million were produced, less than half of the Mosin. Some variants and or arsernal stamps will go up in value I'm sure, time will tell.
I just walked into a big sports/hunting store in my area (not specifically a gun store) and they had a 91/30 for $99. Every other rifle in the store, new or surplus, was much more than that.
I think the only chance these will go up in value is when the importers have no "new" ones left, and even then, the ones in pristine shape will go up in value first.
I think the only chance these will go up in value is when the importers have no "new" ones left, and even then, the ones in pristine shape will go up in value first.
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It's very simple.
As the supply dries up, the price will increase.
The same as it has been with virtually every other FA.
I know it sounds hard to believe now, but one day Mosins will be harder to find, the surplus ammo will disappear, and everyone will be kicking themselves for not buying them up by the crate when they were $69
As the supply dries up, the price will increase.
The same as it has been with virtually every other FA.
I know it sounds hard to believe now, but one day Mosins will be harder to find, the surplus ammo will disappear, and everyone will be kicking themselves for not buying them up by the crate when they were $69
Where are you seeing a $200 dollar SKS? I haven't seen them below $300 in a while.
Wish I had bought a dozen when I passed them over at $89 a piece at every gun show. Ahh the ignorance of youth...
I'd like to hope that Mosin's will go up in price like the SKS, but it will be much slower if they do. That's why I'm all for other guys sporterizing them. So mine will be worth more.
caribou
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Russian fought in WWI and WWII, as well as its own October Revolution with Mosin VS Mosin, the attrition of 17 million Mosins was pretty high. Finnland staedily resupplied themselfs from dead soviets and who knows how many litterd the feilds when the WWII was over.......What survived was dished out to other countrys and stored for WWIII.
The Soviet Union never fought a war with the SKS, they simply stored them too when the AK was numerous enough to replace them.
They will go up, My 70$ M-28's are worth 400$$ easily and my 60$-90$ M27's, M-28/30's are in the 250-300$ range, as well my M-24's and M-91's, 5 in a bundle for 100$ , with "possible missing parts and/or cracked stock" were rarely missing anything more than the rust they should have had.
I more than made a collection and sold off the duplicates.
The M-44's are picking up in price,from 65$ a few years back to an easy 180$, M-38's have gone double from 100$ and M-39s are starting to get a bit steeper in price, as the supply from distributers is, indeed , drying up.
Referbs in the wrap will get premo prices in 5 years, and the used ones will get 200$ easy, I bet.
The Soviet Union never fought a war with the SKS, they simply stored them too when the AK was numerous enough to replace them.
They will go up, My 70$ M-28's are worth 400$$ easily and my 60$-90$ M27's, M-28/30's are in the 250-300$ range, as well my M-24's and M-91's, 5 in a bundle for 100$ , with "possible missing parts and/or cracked stock" were rarely missing anything more than the rust they should have had.
I more than made a collection and sold off the duplicates.
The M-44's are picking up in price,from 65$ a few years back to an easy 180$, M-38's have gone double from 100$ and M-39s are starting to get a bit steeper in price, as the supply from distributers is, indeed , drying up.
Referbs in the wrap will get premo prices in 5 years, and the used ones will get 200$ easy, I bet.
I found a web site that sells a Mosin Nagant front sight tool. Does anyone have any experiences with it? http://www.scgunco.com/Stan_Ward_s_LT2.html
morcey2
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I just picked up another M44 yesterday. Izhevsk 1945 with an overly sanded stock but awesome metal. Not like I needed another one.
DavidMS - if you want a good sight system for the mosin get a mojo system they are the best on old military rifles. I have one on my swiss k31, two of my mosins, a mauser, and maybe an sks too. They are both elevation and wind-age adjustable at the front sight aperture and require no gunsmithing/modification to stock military rifles.
check them out.
http://www.mojosights.com/
check them out.
http://www.mojosights.com/
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