NRA suspends top lobbyist Chris Cox after ‘failed coup attempt’

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Friend, try reading my post. You are going off half cocked trying to hijack the thread. We are talking a cancer in the organization. Are you justifying the behavior of those who are looting the Association? Start at the first post and read through them all.

No, I have read them all thank you. Let's try not to patronize here please. I think you do not have a proper remedy. Like I said, writing letters and voting are fine but withholding funds and otherwise weakening the organization is hurting us all.
 
To YOU? SO the entire RKBA is YOU. They fought the AWB and were politically tarred and feathered over it. Its part of what brought about the Gingrich revolution in 1994. You know, something else that happened before you were born. They knew the bumpstock ban was a loser, and decided not to make the effort. I would have, but I'm hard headed. So you don't know history OR politics?

The did fight the import bans, but there was no one listening in these days. You remember how it was, oh wait YOU HAVE NO IDEA. You think Mulford was the NRAs idea? Sometimes in politics you have to make dirty choices. If the Black Panters, a terrorist organization, hadn't pushed the issue, it wouldn't have come up.

To you? We were fighting this battle long before anyone convinced you that you had any idea what you were talking about. You think the NRA is QUIET over anything Bloomberg has said? Can you read?

I didn't realize that presentism could lay hold on such a short period of time...
pres·ent·ism
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noun
  1. uncritical adherence to present-day attitudes, especially the tendency to interpret past events in terms of modern values and concepts.
you’re taking this way to personally. But I’ll stand by the facts and you shall stand by your beliefs. Let’s argue to the topic more at hand.
 
Friend, try reading my post. You are going off half cocked trying to hijack the thread. We are talking a cancer in the organization. Are you justifying the behavior of those who are looting the Association? Start at the first post and read through them all.


Let's try this:

1. get out your phone
2. Look at the brand
3. Go look at how much the CEO makes, or the President or any of the VP's for that matter

repeat with your computer, refrigerator, your favorite gun

I used to work for Compaq, the Senior VPs there all made in excess of $5,000,000 a year each before bonuses.

The fact that the NRA is almost $11 million in debt is worrying but how much the executives make is better remedied by the stockholders and that is us

The mechanism we have to do this is the voting process.
 
I still think that Wayne hasn’t done anything good and needs to be replaced ASAP. He is clearly more concerned with personal gain than the 2nd. This also leads me to the fact how politically charged the NRA has become, I don’t know about y’all. But I personally don’t care for hearing hot takes on political topics, and I can tell you it only drives away us younger people. They should stay focused on the gun politics and only gun politics.
 
I still think that Wayne hasn’t done anything good and needs to be replaced ASAP. He is clearly more concerned with personal gain than the 2nd. This also leads me to the fact how politically charged the NRA has become, I don’t know about y’all. But I personally don’t care for hearing hot takes on political topics, and I can tell you it only drives away us younger people. They should stay focused on the gun politics and only gun politics.

Once again, everything revolves around YOU. Wayne LaPierre hasn't done anything good? If I give you a juice box and a participation trophy will you toddle off now?
 
No need to read anything, or research the reams of documents laying out La Pierre's shenanigans. No need to discuss the insane salaries the NRA pays Lapierre and his minions or the $250,000 in clothing La Pierre charged off to Ack Mac. La Pierre desires unwavering loyalty to the NRA leadership. He desires that NRA members blow off serious accusations of mismanagement, greed and incompetence by calling same "fake news".

In the 60 or so years as an NRA member i've contributed untold thousands of dollars to that organization. That stopped a few years ago. That money now goes to worthwhile charities.

Two NRA board members have resigned over this flap. Two other board members have openly demanded the resignation of La Pierre.

Dana Loesch panders to the ignorant and uninformed.
 
No need to read anything, or research the reams of documents laying out La Pierre's shenanigans. No need to discuss the insane salaries the NRA pays Lapierre and his minions or the $250,000 in clothing La Pierre charged off to Ack Mac. La Pierre desires unwavering loyalty to the NRA leadership. He desires that NRA members blow off serious accusations of mismanagement, greed and incompetence by calling same "fake news".

In the 60 or so years as an NRA member i've contributed untold thousands of dollars to that organization. That stopped a few years ago. That money now goes to worthwhile charities.

Two NRA board members have resigned over this flap. Two other board members have openly demanded the resignation of La Pierre.

Dana Loesch panders to the ignorant and uninformed.

Can you help me with what other charities I can donate to that would help increase youth involvement in hunting and the shooting sports ?
 
Quiet the reverse. We need a thorough, complete and fair investigation. To find out if there was a crime, and who committed it. If there is a crime, the guilty should be punished, if not, their names should be cleared. (At this point I have no idea how to make that happen in its entirety.) Going on making accusations at this point hurts what was supposed to be our common cause. We need level headed leaders, not the torch and pitchfork squad.
 
Once again, everything revolves around YOU. Wayne LaPierre hasn't done anything good? If I give you a juice box and a participation trophy will you toddle off now?
No need to do out right insults, be the bigger man here and talk about the topic. Not the poster.
 
Anyone have any idea of what organizations we can donate to instead of the NRA that will promote youth involvement in hunting and shooting sports ? Anyone ?
 
I never insulted you, stay on topic please. If we don’t speak for ourselves then who speak for?

You're too dense to realize when you've issued an insult? When you said that the NRA had never done anything for the RKBA, to those of us who stood up, that IS AN INSULT. I've proven you wrong, demolished your arguments, and now you think you should be lecturing me? I am on topic. Are you such a coward that you must run from your actions?
 
You're too dense to realize when you've issued an insult? When you said that the NRA had never done anything for the RKBA, to those of us who stood up, that IS AN INSULT. I've proven you wrong, demolished your arguments, and now you think you should be lecturing me? I am on topic. Are you such a coward that you must run from your actions?
get over it and grow up. Stop taking people opinions personally. Let’s drop it like men.
 
Anyone have any idea of what organizations we can donate to instead of the NRA that will promote youth involvement in hunting and shooting sports ? Anyone ?
Now to be fair, the NRA does a lot of youth shooting sports, training ect.
 
OK then, can anyone justify why it's more important to punish Wayne (or anyone else) than it is to help increase involvement in hunting and shooting sports ?

Because I'm of the opposite opinion.
 
get over it and grow up. Stop taking people opinions personally. Let’s drop it like men.
Do you realize that this is the sort of idiotic claptrap that DOESN'T end a fight, but keeps them going. You're proven you don't do logic, prefer to argue from a position of ignorance, and are guilty of what you are accusing me.

Why don't you grow up? 20 is way too old for this tantrum of yours.
 
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Stopping donations to the organization that helpe promote involvement in hunting and shooting sports is not good people.

IMHO You can deal with Wayne in any manner you see fit that does not hurt the NRA.
 
So, to simplify:

Face = promoting interest in hunting and shooting sports

Nose = Wayne (or clique or whomever)

cut cut cut ?
I think a better comparison would be a hairdo. They say a haircut tells a lot bout a person. And Wayne isn’t a good haircut.
 
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