Wife surprising me with new Rifle. But what Caliber?

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Varminterror said:
The MRAD he has linked isn’t a 50.

$6k for a 300wm of 6.5 creed is just nonsense. It’s a twice as much as could be spent on a better rifle, and ignoring the little gimmick of quick-change barrels (which any action can really do).
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I just assumed it was a 50 my bad, either way I think it’s overkill but hey that’s cool with me.
 
You all make amazing points. I was originally going with a Ruger Precision until I talked to an Ex-Army Ranger Sniper. He was shooting over 1k out an nailing the targets. That was the rifle he was using and recommended it to me.

I can accurately shoot tight groups at 500 yards. All in the red.

I am open to any and all suggestions from you guys. Always am.

My Range now goes out to 2k yards and I want to be hitting that by this summer.

As far as builds. I would rather spend the extra money and just get it complete. If I have to switch around parts that's easy.
 
MR WICK said:
You all make amazing points. I was originally going with a Ruger Precision until I talked to an Ex-Army Ranger Sniper. He was shooting over 1k out an nailing the targets. That was the rifle he was using and recommended it to me.

I can accurately shoot tight groups at 500 yards. All in the red.

I am open to any and all suggestions from you guys. Always am.

My Range now goes out to 2k yards and I want to be hitting that by this summer.

As far as builds. I would rather spend the extra money and just get it complete. If I have to switch around parts that's easy.
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What do you consider a tight group at 500 yards ?
 
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MR WICK said:
You all make amazing points. I was originally going with a Ruger Precision until I talked to an Ex-Army Ranger Sniper. He was shooting over 1k out an nailing the targets. That was the rifle he was using and recommended it to me.

I can accurately shoot tight groups at 500 yards. All in the red.

I am open to any and all suggestions from you guys. Always am.

My Range now goes out to 2k yards and I want to be hitting that by this summer.

As far as builds. I would rather spend the extra money and just get it complete. If I have to switch around parts that's easy.
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What do you really want in the rifle? Turnkey is fine, but you opened asking about 6.5 creed, 208, and 300wm, talking about 1400 yards, now talking about 2,000 yards….

Lots of us have hit 2k with little cartridges, but it’s really, really beyond their capabilities. The 300wm flattens the other two at 2k, but is still weak for the task. It would be the only one of those 3 original choices worth considering… if the real task is shooting 1400, 1760, or 2000yrds… the 6.5 creed and 308 can kinda do it, occasionally, but it’s kinda like driving a Mustang GT fast on the highway, versus actually owning a racecar… 338 Lapua would be a better choice if ELR is the objective - and among ELR cartridges, 338 Lapua is the baby brother. 300wm isn’t even an infant in that game - it simply can’t play. I’d personally recommend 300PRC over 338 lap or 300win mag for 1400-2k, and would meter expectations that I can’t shoot farther and wouldn’t pretend it could. Even a cheap Savage 338 Lapua would be a better option for 2k than a Barrett in 6.5 creed or 308, or even 300wm…

So you really need to define your expectations here. If you want a 2k rifle, it won’t be any of what you’ve discussed so far. You’ll need to be looking 338Lapua or larger, and the Barrett really doesn’t hang in that crowd. If you want something bigger than your 223’s for shooting 1,000-1300 regularly with an occasional trip, once per year or so, shooting big targets at a mile or 2k, then a 6.5 creed GA Precision PPR would do what you want and need.

Super cool rifles, but you’re not getting value for your money (or accuracy) with the Barrett’s.
 
Hell, if it's 2k you want to shoot and a Barrett... get an M99 in 50 BMG.

Shop around and you can get one for around $3K. Surplus ammo will get you to 2K, loaded AMAX would be better. Handloads cheaper and tuned to the rifle.

You'll even save enough money for a quality scope.
 
We aren't allowed to shoot 50 caliber at my Range.

The Range Master is extending the distance to 2k yards this summer.

I want a rifle and caliber that can do that.

I shoot 5 days a week.
 
MR WICK said:
You all make amazing points. ………
As far as builds. I would rather spend the extra money and just get it complete. If I have to switch around parts that's easy.
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I did that at first, bought a Seekins, didn’t like it, said the heck with it and bought an Impact Precision complete rifle (Smithed by Stuteville Precision) Fantastic rifle, and I do mean fantastic.

https://impactprecisionshooting.com...rifles/products/impact-foundation-match-rifle

For shooting PRS though I found I did better with a Matrix stock, simply easier for my old hands to hold/handle vs the Foundation stock.

That said, a young man would have no problem with the Foundation and it is Rock Solid off the bench, rock solid.

After that I bought another Impact action, a Bartlein barrel, a Trigger Tech trigger and put that together. I used an Impact action wrench and a Short Action Customs barrel vice. (My buddy uses a Viper barrel wrench, works just fine. I have an old barrel vice from my Benchrest days that looks like it, we did his first barrel with it when he bought an action to build his own PRS gun)
 
Mr Wick, this isn’t going to be your last rifle, by a long shot. I’ve followed many of your posts and I sense you’re still learning, but definitely love shooting and are getting better at it. I would recommend you choose a good rifle that will shoot 1200 yards. You’ll always use and enjoy it. Learn what it takes to do well at 1200 yards, and by then you’ll have a better idea of what’s required to reach out to 2000 yards. One thing I know is a rifle that shoots well at 2000 yards is expensive to shoot, even if you reload. Recoil is harsh, and why put up with that at 1000 or 1200 yards? You’ll learn a lot shooting at 1200 yards and can apply this knowledge as you shoot ELR.

Just my 2 cents worth…
 
rayatphonix said:
Mr Wick, this isn’t going to be your last rifle, by a long shot. I’ve followed many of your posts and I sense you’re still learning, but definitely love shooting and are getting better at it. I would recommend you choose a good rifle that will shoot 1200 yards. You’ll always use and enjoy it. Learn what it takes to do well at 1200 yards, and by then you’ll have a better idea of what’s required to reach out to 2000 yards. One thing I know is a rifle that shoots well at 2000 yards is expensive to shoot, even if you reload. Recoil is harsh, and why put up with that at 1000 or 1200 yards? You’ll learn a lot shooting at 1200 yards and can apply this knowledge as you shoot ELR.

Just my 2 cents worth…
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I understand where you are coming from and that may be a good idea. I'm not trying to brag by any means but money is not an issue buying the rifle. Technically I could go up to 10k if I wanted to. Yes, that would be ridiclious. I just want something that can shoot 1,000 yards as well as 5,000.
 
If you want to compete at 2000 there is a financial commitment.
I shoot a Vortex Golden Eagle on my Long Range 1k br rifle, cheap at $1200 and mechanically sound to 1 k
 
South Prairie Jim said:
If you want to compete at 2000 there is a financial commitment.
I shoot a Vortex Golden Eagle on my Long Range 1k br rifle, cheap at $1200 and mechanically sound to 1 k
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Hmmmm..... Can the 6k scope be used at 750 yards.

What I'm asking is that if that expensive scope can be used to shoot any distance or just long range?

I just want a setup that will stand the test of time. No upgrading. Even if it just sits there while I improve on my 223 skills. I'm taking a 3 day, 8hrs a day, Sniper Class from a former United States Navy Seal Sniper in May.

I will still continue to shoot my 223 to 1k yards. I absolutely love it.
 
I can show you the card.
rayatphonix said:
This is becoming “ridiclious.” A sniper class? 5000 yards? Unlimited budget? This thread started with a question about whether a 308, 6.5 CM, or 300 WM was the best choice for 1400 yards. Wow.
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It's just become a well rounded discussion. Here is the class I'll be taking. Feel free to look into it.

As far as the budget. My home is paid off, mine and my wife's cars are paid off and I just landed a job making a very healthy amount of money. Plus, my wife is a Hotel Manager at a major Vegas casino. And in Vegas the dollar goes much further.

This is my only hobby so, yeah, money is not an option. Should I buy a Ferrari instead? I can afford it. But to me that's pissing away money.
 

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Prisms are becoming very affordable and available, which allow solid 100 or 200 yard zeroes still with 3000+ yard range capabilities.

The dude who shot the World’s Longest Shot in Competition last year and placed 2nd at Ko2M used a 7-35x Nightforce ATACR for both - shooting his record breaking 4034yrds with a Charlie Tarac Prism out front. The same scope Lindsey used to win Ko2m last season. Robert Brantley won King of 2 Miles a couple years ago, then was second the year after, uses a Bushnell XRS II 4.5-30x, same scope Tom Manners of Manners stocks used on his ELR rifle. Another guy I shoot with frequently has a Tangent Theta 5-25x and another NF 7-35x on his second rifle.

We host a monthly ELR match at one of the precision rifle member ranges here in KS, Spearpoint Ranch, with competitors from all over the country coming out. It’s really a sight to behold, even for someone like me who shoots 1000+ on a regular basis. 3000+ is an entirely new sport than long range shooting!
 
MR WICK said:
I can show you the card.


It's just become a well rounded discussion. Here is the class I'll be taking. Feel free to look into it.

As far as the budget. My home is paid off, mine and my wife's cars are paid off and I just landed a job making a very healthy amount of money. Plus, my wife is a Hotel Manager at a major Vegas casino. And in Vegas the dollar goes much further.

This is my only hobby so, yeah, money is not an option. Should I buy a Ferrari instead? I can afford it. But to me that's pissing away money.
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My comment was related to how far off this thread had drifted from your original post. Your money is yours to spend as you like. If your intent was to purchase a ELR rig it would have been helpful to know that.
 
Nighforce, Kahles, Zero Compromise, Razor, Zeiss, Bushnell, Tract, etc, all would serve well at any yardage.

There are a number of outstanding scopes out there aimed at the long range market.
 
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