Would you? Remington R51 for $300 new?
- Thread starter Orion8472
- Start date
- Status
I probably would, if I had an extra $300 and no use for it. Wouldn't mind one, and if they're OK now they'll surely go higher quickly.
I have other guns on my want list ahead of another handgun though, like a .357 levergun and a .308 bolt rifle, which would need a scope too. I also hear HiPoint is coming out with a 10mm carbine, which should be a hoot!
I have other guns on my want list ahead of another handgun though, like a .357 levergun and a .308 bolt rifle, which would need a scope too. I also hear HiPoint is coming out with a 10mm carbine, which should be a hoot!
No.
doubleh
Member
Yes.
larryh1108
Member
Yes. I have one. Good price on a good gun.
NIGHTLORD40K
Member
Even filtering all the R51 YouTube videos through the usual troll/BS filter, I still believe these pistols have too many issues. Whether its backed out frame pins, poor tolerances/machining, cheap magazines, or a combination of problems. Even if I got a "good" example, I would have to put $50-75 worth of ammo through it before I could trust it enough for serious defense duty, so add that to the cost of the pistol.
Then, even if I obtained a reliable R51, there's the long-term wear concern. The steel locking blocks appear to badly batter the frame and the "elastomeric" extractor tension ball does nothing to inspire confidence.
I have an original Model 51 and I REALLY REALLY wanted this gun! I still want an R53 .45- but in all steel with a real spring for the #%@ extractor. Remington could turn their very hard won experience with this pistol to good use.....and profit. I would gladly fork over $750 for an R53.
But they probably wont go there.
If I could get one for $200 and had space in my safe for an unreliable oddity that I would rarely shoot, sure. But I can't and I don't.
Then, even if I obtained a reliable R51, there's the long-term wear concern. The steel locking blocks appear to badly batter the frame and the "elastomeric" extractor tension ball does nothing to inspire confidence.
I have an original Model 51 and I REALLY REALLY wanted this gun! I still want an R53 .45- but in all steel with a real spring for the #%@ extractor. Remington could turn their very hard won experience with this pistol to good use.....and profit. I would gladly fork over $750 for an R53.
But they probably wont go there.
If I could get one for $200 and had space in my safe for an unreliable oddity that I would rarely shoot, sure. But I can't and I don't.
bannockburn
Member
- Joined
- Apr 24, 2007
- Messages
- 26,302
Quick answer: No.
Too many problems and potential issues with this particular gun to ever make me want to spend any money on one.
Zendude
Member
I have one and like it. Will it hold up as well as a Shield? Don’t know yet.
sakata8242
Member
Nope. Question is do you want one because you want one, or because you're thinking of using one for serious use (i.e. something other than shooting it more than once or twice a year and stashing it in the sock drawer)
I will never suggest not buying something if the honest reason for wanting one is simply because you want one, everything else be damned. But for serious use (defensive, training, competition, etc...I'd suggest looking elsewhere and spending s little more for something with a track record.
I will never suggest not buying something if the honest reason for wanting one is simply because you want one, everything else be damned. But for serious use (defensive, training, competition, etc...I'd suggest looking elsewhere and spending s little more for something with a track record.
Zaydok Allen
Member
- Joined
- Feb 12, 2011
- Messages
- 13,274
Nope
There are better guns for less money.
For less than 300 bucks I could get a SIG SAUER P250, Walther Creed, Kahr CW9, Kahr CM9, Smith & Wesson SD9VE, Smith & Wesson Shield, 3 different SAR models not to mention Canik, and actually - I'd rather have a Taurus Millennium G2 PT 111 than the Remington R51.
Maybe some of the guns I included is like comparing apples and oranges since the R51 was designed to be a slim compact pistol, but the Shield is roughly the same size as the R51. The PPS is not that much bigger and it can be had for $315.00 The CM9 is smaller than the R51.
I think the R51 can be made into a good gun, but not at the price point Remington has it at.
But that's just me.
If you want one the way I want 9mm revolvers then go ahead and get it.
For less than 300 bucks I could get a SIG SAUER P250, Walther Creed, Kahr CW9, Kahr CM9, Smith & Wesson SD9VE, Smith & Wesson Shield, 3 different SAR models not to mention Canik, and actually - I'd rather have a Taurus Millennium G2 PT 111 than the Remington R51.
Maybe some of the guns I included is like comparing apples and oranges since the R51 was designed to be a slim compact pistol, but the Shield is roughly the same size as the R51. The PPS is not that much bigger and it can be had for $315.00 The CM9 is smaller than the R51.
I think the R51 can be made into a good gun, but not at the price point Remington has it at.
But that's just me.
If you want one the way I want 9mm revolvers then go ahead and get it.
Last edited:
In my opinion that $300 would be better spent on several other guns, used or new, or ammo and training for what you already have. I have absolutely zero tolerance for a problematic carry gun, and the new R51 has proved to have more issues than almost any other gun I can think of, almost ever. It’s a real shame because Remington could have made a big splash in the pistol market, but instead they drop this turd then follow up with the unsuccessful RP9. For the life of me I don’t understand what is going on at Remington. Like stated above, if you can get a pps or shield for the same price or cheaper then what is the point
lordfarquaad
Member
- Joined
- Jul 27, 2016
- Messages
- 47
Purely my opinion, but I think the R51 looks like it fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. Looks like a hi-point had a baby with the "noisy cricket" from Men In Black.
MosinT53Hunter
Member
- Joined
- Dec 15, 2016
- Messages
- 1,042
Coal Dragger
member
No.
Shot my dad's a few weeks ago. Gun ran fine.
Trigger has no positive reset feel or sound.
More annoying was the top of the grip frame area is not well radiused and digs into the web of your hand under recoil. This makes extensive shooting very uncomfortable if you like taking as high a grip on the pistol as possible.
So even given an R51 that is functionally OK, the design still leaves a lot to be desired.
I'd pass at any price.
Shot my dad's a few weeks ago. Gun ran fine.
Trigger has no positive reset feel or sound.
More annoying was the top of the grip frame area is not well radiused and digs into the web of your hand under recoil. This makes extensive shooting very uncomfortable if you like taking as high a grip on the pistol as possible.
So even given an R51 that is functionally OK, the design still leaves a lot to be desired.
I'd pass at any price.
berettaprofessor
Member
"No". But I might sell mine for that.
Panzerschwein
member
NO.
The R51 was billed as some kind of ultimate defensive pistol with a slick tacticool ad campaign with bought out gun rag editors, a so called reintroduction of a classic pistol but totally modernized and ready to WIN THE FOIGHT BRUH!! DOMINATE THE TACTICAL BATTLESPACE WITH THE REMINGTON R51 BRUH!!
Obviously, the first iteration was an unbelievably embarrassing joke that stopped being funny and turned infuriating when you realized this once great (and financially independant) American firearms companies had totally soiled the bed and hocked such a QC nightmare on the masses, again, with the guise that it was somehow supposed to be an effective and dependable sidearm you could trust your life to.
I don't care if the second generation is better. They do not DESERVE a dime of my money for what they did to the American gun buyer. I refuse to give the Freedom Group corporate execs any more money so they can keep dismantling and destroying the once great American gun industry, one brand at a time.
I'd take the $300 and buy one of those unissued Bulgarian Makarovs, a truly proven and dependable pistol.
The R51 was billed as some kind of ultimate defensive pistol with a slick tacticool ad campaign with bought out gun rag editors, a so called reintroduction of a classic pistol but totally modernized and ready to WIN THE FOIGHT BRUH!! DOMINATE THE TACTICAL BATTLESPACE WITH THE REMINGTON R51 BRUH!!
Obviously, the first iteration was an unbelievably embarrassing joke that stopped being funny and turned infuriating when you realized this once great (and financially independant) American firearms companies had totally soiled the bed and hocked such a QC nightmare on the masses, again, with the guise that it was somehow supposed to be an effective and dependable sidearm you could trust your life to.
I don't care if the second generation is better. They do not DESERVE a dime of my money for what they did to the American gun buyer. I refuse to give the Freedom Group corporate execs any more money so they can keep dismantling and destroying the once great American gun industry, one brand at a time.
I'd take the $300 and buy one of those unissued Bulgarian Makarovs, a truly proven and dependable pistol.
Last edited:
NIGHTLORD40K
Member
I'm starting to think I SHOULD get one.....will be quite the conversation piece one day. I can totally see a young fella staring wide eyed at it at the range in 20 years:
"Say, Mister, isn't that the worst handgun ever made? I've heard stories about them."
"Well, maybe not the worst, sonny. See there was this thing called a Rogak once upon a time...."
"Say, Mister, isn't that the worst handgun ever made? I've heard stories about them."
"Well, maybe not the worst, sonny. See there was this thing called a Rogak once upon a time...."
bc38
Member
- Joined
- Mar 22, 2016
- Messages
- 97
No. love the look and the idea, but........................ Oct. issue of American Rifleman, " The pistol would not efficiently strip the top round out of the mag and feed it into the chamber". Getting new mags from Rem. fixed this, with the trouble this pistol has had since the beginning i would think that Rem. would go out of its way to insure that things like this didn't happen. especially to gun rags. Sorry i just dont trust big green.
BearBrimstone
Member
- Joined
- Jan 7, 2016
- Messages
- 303
I'm waiting for them to drop to about $200 and then I will be all over one. 30 years from now they will be a great conversation piece and collection oddity if Remington gives up production as I expect they would if prices dropped to $200 or less.
berettaprofessor
Member
Beretta 9000 or Colt All American 2000. I'm not a big fan of my R51, but at least with the right ammo and right magazines it's accurate and looks like a normal gun.
NIGHTLORD40K
Member
Last edited:
Boarhunter
Member
Yes. I own one and like it a good bit. And this coming from a man that owns a lot of handguns from virtually every major current manufacturer.
BOARHUNTER
BOARHUNTER
- Status
