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My brother-in-law went to China-Mart yesterday because he was looking to hoard some 9mm and there is never anything on the selves except for maybe some 22's and some shot gun shells.

Found a counter guy (usual search and wait required) and he said that when he comes in at 7AM, there is a line of people at the counter asking what came in on the truck the night before. He goes back and looks and brings out what ever there is and the first guy in line buys it all. Happens everyday he says.
 
Come on people! Think!

Why would the companies amp up production when all they have to do is amp up prices. They don't care if you don't have ammo. If they stay at the same production rate they don't have to pay employee's overtime and with a "shortage" they can raise up the prices and still make it at the same price as before.
 
with a "shortage" they can raise up the prices and still make it at the same price as before
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Well, actually, the people shipping the product are asking for more, since they have more trips to make. The rest of the price increase at the retail point goes to the retailer (since bulk-buying demands really even out across the wholesale spectrum).
 
My last visit to Wal*Mart for ammo.

I hope I never go back.

I was driving by one and I thought, "I'll just go to sporting goods on the off chance that they have some ammo." So I wait at the counter with two other families and there is no one there. I have checked the case and they did have two boxes of Remington .223 at $9.97 a box, and a bunch of boxes of Remington .223 at $17+ a box. I couldn't tell from the case how many or why the difference in price. Finally, a nice young man shows up and after I wait my turn, I ask about ammo. I did buy the two boxes of 20 rounds which totaled a little over $20.
What bothered me was the conversation I had with him.

Me: So when does the ammo come in?
Him: We never know, we don't get much and the gun dealers are buying it all up.
Me: Really? How do they know when to come here if you don't know when it's arriving?
Him: They just wait.
Me: That doesn't make any sense. How do they run their gun shops if they're here waiting on ammo?
Him: They send over employees.
Me: You mean they pay employees to stand around Wal*Mart and hope a shipment comes in? Is there one here now? Show him to me.
Him: Next!

Well, the bottom line is this, he was lying to me.
So either Wal*Mart is selling it out the back door to dealers (very possible)
or they don't get much. Either way, I was wasting my time.
The frustration factor just became too high.
By the way, they had no 9mm, .45acp, .380.
I went there prepared to buy a lot. I wasted an hour and left with 40 rounds of .223 at $.50/ round.
 
Welcome to the post-election world. It's great isn't it? This must have something to do with the change they were talking about.
 
I believe most stores get their shipments at the same time and /or at least the same day every week.

All a gun shop owner needs to do is ask the FULL-TIME employee at the Sports counter (maybe after slipping him a couple of bucks) and eliminate the wait.

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I've found in the past that asking a weekend (normally Part-Time) employee about the goings on in a store during regular hours is usually a total waste of time.
 
Weird. I probably would have chuckled and walked off. I see no reason to develop a conspiracy theory over what he said. He was likely saying whatever he thought would make you stop asking quesions and leave as quickly as possible.
 
I hit up wally world yesterday. no .223, 45, 9mm, 00 buck or slugs. Only .22 and birdshot. I then went to academy sports where I picked up all the ammo i could ever want. They had very good deals (for todays times) on 9mm and 45acp.
 
One of my best friends is manager at a local WalMart...they are having a hard time getting ammo too.

There are no "regularly scheduled" ammo shipments anymore (not like clockwork at least)...he knows a couple of days before they get there (and I know a few minutes later).

Gun shops do wait on ammo...most gun shops are waiting on ammo right now (be it from their distributors or WallyWorld...they are waiting)
 
My wife works at Wal Mart and what the clerk told you is true. If the wal mart warehouse is out, then the clerks at wal mart have no idea when they will get more stock. She told me that the products, such as ammo and wii's (both very popular right now) go to the stores that sell the most of them with other items. So if store no. 1 sells more guns and ammo together then store no. 2, store no. 1 will get more ammo allocated to them when the warehouse gets more in stock.

She told me that 45 ammo just came in and it was all sold out the same day. But all the local stores are having the same problem, Bi-Mart (local chain) had a coupon for 10% off all Remington handgun ammo, so I waddled in to buy some and guess what... none, nada, zilch. But then did have some Hornady and Winchester, so I bought those instead, at full price, of course.

Until people get over the panic buying, ammo will be in short supply. I say that and I have bought more ammo lately then normal, so I am as much to blame as everyone else. But as phydeaux642 said this is the "change" we were promised... and all the other "stuff" congress is doing. :fire::fire::fire::banghead::banghead::banghead::cuss::cuss::cuss:

I know this info doesn't really help, but the clerk was right. I know from my wife's experience that working at Wal Mart isn't that great, but it isn't as bad as some people think or would let on.

Anyhow that is my .02 YMMV

JohnnyOrygun
 
Here they say they get shipments in every morning. I think that's what they said anyway but they don't know until they get them what it will have. So dealers may be just sending an employee over ever morning to check it out or have him stop by on his way to work every morning.

Ammo is hard to find just about everywhere right now.
 
After adding up the value of the time spent going into WM to see empty shelves I now believe it is cheaper & easier to order online & pay shipping.
 
So either Wal*Mart is selling it out the back door to dealers (very possible)
or they don't get much
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I heard at my local Wally that its just a national conspiracy against you.
They have your picture posted in the employee break room and the reason they were taking so long to get to the counter was because they were hiding the ammo from you.:rolleyes:

I'd get a lawyer and sue.
 
I heard at my local Wally that its just a national conspiracy against you.
They have your picture posted in the employee break room and the reason they were taking so long to get to the counter was because they were hiding the ammo from you.
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I KNEW IT!!:neener:
 
The Walmart by me seems to have a steady supply of most calibers. I just picked up two .380 value packs, and they had 4 or 5 boxes left on the shelf after me. They didnt have 9mm value packs, but they did have a number of 50 round boxes. I also saw 50 round boxes of .40 and 357SIG. Prices havent changed since the last increase either.
 
From what I have been told by just about every sales person that works around the sporting good section at my friendly local walmart, their trucks come in at 4pm and they start unloading at around 6 or 7. They tell me that I can check at the 4pm time because they will have the shipping order/manifest/whatever, and can tell me what's on the truck. So far they actually have been nice enough to let me know what is/isn't on the truck and they have even told me when they will have access to the palate to retrieve whatever I need. They have also told me that they don't really know what is coming in ahead of time, only what the local wherehouse has received.

I had an irritating conversation with a walmart sporting goods clerk today too, only this isn't my normal friendly local walmart. In this walmart the ammo is hidden behind the counter so nobody can see or read what the heck is in stock, so I asked him "Do you have any...." and he cut me off to say " we don't have no pistol ammo, period" and he said it like he just caught me kicking his dog. After trying to get him to be a bit more specific as to cartridge type and the usual questions that you would ask, he wouldn't answer with anything intelligible, he just kept saying "no, no, no" even when "no" wasn't an option to the question. Before i walked off I told him that he was the least helpfull salesperson I have ever dealt with (there were children within earshot).

THEN, I get the door nazi asking for my receipt (I did ;urchase a steel spinner target for my boys), and she received my usual reply which is "no you may not". I'm not in a real walmart friendly mood right now, so if you told me that they were satan, I would agree with you and swear to it also.
 
I've stopped going to the Wal-Marts that don't have the ammo cabinets which I can walk right up to. Communicating with the individuals who usually man the counter once is hard enough, doing it six or seven times trying to find if they have ANYTHING I want is utterly unbearable.

so I asked him "Do you have any...." and he cut me off to say " we don't have no pistol ammo, period" and he said it like he just caught me kicking his dog. After trying to get him to be a bit more specific as to cartridge type and the usual questions that you would ask,
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How could he have possibly been any more specific than that? And why would you continue to ask questions about pistol ammo if he had already said that they had none?
 
I don't even buy light bulbs from WalMart. They can keep whatever they have. Better yet, send it back to China and buy some of our economy back...
 
I just picked up two .380 value packs, and they had 4 or 5 boxes left on the shelf after me.
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Now there's where the sortage is!!! The lowly .380 caliber that prior to last year was, "An inferior self defense round", is almost non-existent everywhere. There hasn't been any .380 in my town in six months. I can buy 9mm and .45 by the 1000rd case almost every week on at least one day of the week, but no .380. I have bought at least 5000rds of 9mm since Christmas, but have yet to be able to purchase 50rds of .380. I'm about a week away from buying a reloader and loading my own.
 
I don't get why people who go to wal mart are hoarding ammo. The stuff sat there and didn't move for years
 
How could he have possibly been any more specific than that? And why would you continue to ask questions about pistol ammo if he had already said that they had none?
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Because I woke up this morning with 5 extra minutes in the day. (???)

When I ask a question of someone who is there to serve me, they better listen to my question before they pop-off with a smart-ass answer which doesn't accurately answer anything at all. Since it isn't the regular store that I go to, I was trying to get more information as to whether they get more regular shipments, more of it when it does come, when is the best time to check with that department in that particular store, are they getting more of a particular cartridge than others....basically the same questions that anyone looking to purchase something would ask a salesperson. By getting an answer other than "no", I could find out that perhaps I would have a better chance of purchasing 9mm there than another store. or that .45 just doesn't come in at all and when it does they only get a box or two. Maybe customer service doesn't mean anything to you, but if a place wants me to spend money at their establishment, they better be willing to answer some simple questions that will help me spend my money there.

By asking open and closed ended question, instead of accepting "NO", you can get information to help you purchase things. If this is a bother to a salesperson, too bad. And if it is a bother to a salesperson to help customers perhaps they need to be unemployed and let someone who wants to work be in his position.

BTW, is it intentional or just a gift?



I have bought at least 5000rds of 9mm since Christmas, but have yet to be able to purchase 50rds of .380.
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No kidding, .380 is just not out there.

However, by asking questions to a helpful salesperson one day at walmart, I was able get information that .380 was coming in and was able to get a couple hundred rounds, even though they were out at the time I asked. Funny how that kind of thing works.


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I'm about a week away from buying a reloader and loading my own.

Good luck trying to components.
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My dealer can't get anything in for reloading. If he does come across something he gets so excited that you'd think that Santa Claus himself just popped down his chimney with a winning lotto ticket for him. It's just insane how bad things are.
 
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if you need compnets to reload go through dillion or midway there are pleanty
reloading is the only way
if you need bullets to reload go through montana gold bullet most power and primers are best bought through your local reloading supply if you n=dont want to pay hasmat fee and brass high tech or scharr
 
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