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A friend of mine did an inventory of his ammo the other day and he says he has $18,000 worth of ammo at todays prices!
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I can believe that. I paid $9.50 for WWB that is now selling for $39 to $50. If the average price of one round of ammo today is $0.50, my small 15K round inventory is worth $7,500. 99% of my inventory was purchased over the past +/- 30 years and before Dec 08.
 
I have become a hoarder.
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Or...

I am getting prepared for the next shortage so I won't be one of the folks with nothing to shoot while others go to the range with their carefully stocked supplies.

There....fixed it for you...... :)
 
Or.....

I am getting prepared for the next shortage so I won't be one of the folks whining and crying about the "price gouging" during the next ammo shortage.

How's that? :D
 
No room for reloading? Horse puckey. Do you have a table? Is there space under your couch or bed or under the sink? Mount the press on a 2x6 and clamp to the table. Ditto your powder measure and trimmer. I ran an admittedly unsuccessful reloading business in a 6'x6' closet.
 
What's the problem with "hoarding"?

Call it what you want, stockpiling, hoarding, etc. What's the problem? Most of us have seen ammo prices about triple in the last few years. Who's to say it won't go higher? Who's to say it won't become unavailable?

Would any of those condemning ammo hoarding condemn me for doing my best to keep about a years worth of food on hand?

In this (currently) capitalistic country, to each his own. Just don't whine when you are out of ammo and your firearm becomes as useful as a rock.

For me and mine, I'm doing my absolute best at being prepared for whatever.:)
 
Keep a minimum of 500 rounds per firearm. After you reach the 500 round mark, shoot what you buy. If you don't shoot it all, put it in the ammo can. However, once it goes in the ammo can, it stays there. On your next range trip, shoot what you buy. If you don't shoot it all, put the leftover in the ammo can, rinse and repeat.
It'll add up through the years.
 
Call it what you want, stockpiling, hoarding, etc. What's the problem? Most of us have seen ammo prices about triple in the last few years. Who's to say it won't go higher? Who's to say it won't become unavailable?Would any of those condemning ammo hoarding condemn me for doing my best to keep about a years worth of food on hand?

In this (currently) capitalistic country, to each his own. Just don't whine when you are out of ammo and your firearm becomes as useful as a rock.

For me and mine, I'm doing my absolute best at being prepared for whatever.
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well said.

Keep a minimum of 500 rounds per firearm. After you reach the 500 round mark, shoot what you buy. If you don't shoot it all, put it in the ammo can. However, once it goes in the ammo can, it stays there. On your next range trip, shoot what you buy. If you don't shoot it all, put the leftover in the ammo can, rinse and repeat.
It'll add up through the years.
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Great advice for new shooters.
 
I hear people say this all the time but the problem is that reloading not always an option for some of us. I live in an apartment and even though it's a big apartment I don't really have the area needed to set up reloading equipment. If I had a garage then I would be reloading for sure.
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This is a $35 Lee "Hand Tool". Even though I have a Dillon progressive press, sometimes I use this tool to load a small amount of ammo. Just yesterday I was loading a dozen 30.06 test loads.

Everything you need for pistol ammo will fit in a medium size cardboard box that you can store in a corner of the closet.

It is very slow, takes about 30-40 minutes to load a box of pistol ammo, but the quality of the ammo will compare to store bought in most cases.
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Even a full blown reloading rig can be built to fit in about a 4 foot space.
For a couple years I had this setup in the company apartment at work and turned out thousands of rounds in the evenings.
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Never thought about canning & pickling ammo.....may help preserve it longer. (heehee)
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Actually, at the present time I am shooting 9mm reloads that's been in Mayonnaise jars since 1993.:D
 
Same, my issue is how hard ammo is to find out here, so I tend to buy as much as I an afford, or there is stock left, to hold me over until there's more.

I simply refuse to pay the arm and a leg the only joints that have ammo are asking for them. They're all identically priced too, over twice what Cabela's is asking, and about 30% more than I'm willing to pay.
 
mljdeckard - I know exactly how you feel. A couple weeks ago I loaded some .45 and found that a 50 cal can full to the brim will hold 1300 rounds. I had two of them!

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They were oh so pretty. When friends came to my house I would show them off. Sometimes I'd go into the reloading room just to look at them. Then the weekend rolled around, I shot a couple hundred from one of them. All of a sudden they just weren't cool anymore. Even though I still had 2400 rounds of .45, I still felt empty when I opened that can to see a half inch of air between the top of the ammo and the top of the can. I stopped showing it off. I almost felt ashamed.

But don't worry. Once you ruin the one pristine can, or case, etc, its all down hill from there. Shooting less won't bring the ammo level in your favorite can or case back, but shooting more will empty it out and let you fill it back up again.
 
I shoot my reloads so fast the saying goes "hermetically sealed in a mayonnaise jar since noon today". I recently had to put more supports in the cellar since the floor of the ammo closet was bowing in the center (the double doors stayed straight and I noticed it). If I just keep 2K of ammo for each cal I reload the total would be 36K.:what: It is more like 6K or more at least for the pistol ,223, 308, 30-06, and 30 carbine.:D The other guys at the fire station say: if it burns we will stand back and wet it down until the pops stop.:cuss: I may have to buy Dillon 550 so I can reload faster than I shoot. Looking at 2 five gal buckets of 9MM brass I need to process before the end of the month.:eek: Postals are on the way:D
 
There is a Aummunition Anonymous meeting at the cornor church tonight at 7:30 pm. Everyone is welcome. Please phone 555-5555 for information.
 
Nothing wrong with stockpiling if you have the money and you intend to shoot the stuff. Guys buying 10x the amount they could shoot in 10 years is what caused the craze.
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Except that I plan to have enough on hand to last my lifetime (early 30's now), AND my daughters for the most heavily used calibers. I'm about halfway there right now. Of course, most of my ammo is still in the form of lead tire weights and unassembled components. I probably need another 10k primers and 20lbs of powder or so, and I'll be good. (we don't shoot much, but it's nice to know a box of ammo is $2.50, and not $25.00)
 
Oh yes! And you can buy it in 550-round bulk boxes that take up about as much room as WWB 100-rounders.
I can still find the Federal bulk 550 round .22LR for under $20 - which means I get more range time, more live fire, and need to shoot centerfire less to keep skills up.
Having a .22 with the same basic controls scheme as your SD pistol is a huge advantage, and in the long run it is a money-saver.
 
I don't stockpile ammo, but I stockpile brass. For years now I've picked up every single piece of brass I find at the range, regardless of whether or not I can shoot it. I figure if stuff goes south in the future, I can barter it for what I need, or maybe I can collect enough to justify the purchase of something to shoot it in. (Besides, I just gave a couple of gallon bags of .357 Mag brass to a friend of mine, along with a set of Lee .38 Special/.357 Mag dies on an extended loan, so now he owes me :) )

I also pick up Berdan-primed brass. It's also reloadable, just not as simple or as cheap to as Boxer-primed brass is. I've even filled two .50 cal ammo cans with nothing but range-harvested lead and lead-jacketed bullets, because one day I figure I'll get into casting. (Those things get HEAVY - I don't think I'd keep lead in anything bigger.)
 
My reloading stuff is my "stash"---15,000 primers and 25lbs of powder----pretty much all the ammo I buy--I shoot and then save the brass----do need to pick up more bullets when I get around to it.
 
I think having a lifetime supply of hunting ammo for a gun is smart, scoped and ready to go.
Now go do that with several guns; rifles & handguns, then train with rimfires.

You can make everything except.........primers!
 
Ya don't need primers if ya have a flintlock! ;)

Seriously, though - that's why I've worked to concentrate calibers - .223, .22-250, 7mm mag are my "primary" long guns. .22, .380, .38, .357, .40, .45 are my "primary" pistols. If I had to drop to 2 calibers in each, it'd be .22 & 7mm mag, an' .22 an' .45.
 
Well I went to a gun show this past weekend and was looking at some primers and the guy wanted $80/thousand. I over heard him say that he was a hoarder and my thoughts were yeah maybe so but it's more like you're a gouger to put it nicely.
 
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