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What kind of guns do the bad guys carry?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by GunnyUSMC, Feb 20, 2019.

  1. Charlie Horse

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    No it isn't. A judge seizes property from someone who used it to commit a crime and handed to over to be used in law enforcement. This has nothing to do with an officer claiming anything out of a property room, but a process in the same vein as asset forfeiture. I don't think O've seen one done in 15-20 years.
     
  2. roscoe

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    If a police department (or an individual officer) stands to materially gain from arresting a suspect, there is a conflict of interest, even if the process is deemed legal. At least, in my ethical judgement. Whether or not a judge is involved.
     
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  3. GunnyUSMC

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    Here is a video clip of some guns that were recovered.
    The Kimber Custom Covert II in the video is the one in this update.


    380 Auto:
    (1) Ruger LCP

    9mm:
    (1) Glock 19 G4
    (1) Ruger P95DC
    (1) Ruger SR9c
    (1) Taurus PT111G2
    (1) Taurus G2C
    (1) Taurus PT99
    (1) Taurus 709 Slim
    (1) Sig P226
    (1) Sig P320
    (1) Beretta 92FS
    (1) Walther PPX
    (1) Sccy CPX-1
    (1) Polymer80 (G17)

    40 S&W:
    (3) S&W SD40VE
    (1) Ruger P94

    45 Auto:
    (1) Kimber Custom Covert II ( In Video)
    (1) Glock 21 G4
    (1) Ruger P345

    5.56/223:
    (1) Diamondback DB15 (rifle)
    (1) ATI Omni (Pistol)
     
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  4. FL-NC

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    Gunny- it seems like you are dealing with more guns than a very busy FFL, and some pretty nice ones at that! Imagine all of the ones your people AREN'T finding!
     
  5. luzyfuerza

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    I was re-reading the summary report on Boston's Operation Ceasefire last night (https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/188741.pdf especially pages 15-20). Part of Ceasefire was to try to interdict the illegal transfer of guns into criminals' hands (NOT, of course the flow of illegal guns) in Boston. The report noted that

    1) violent criminals in Boston at the time had a strong preference for NIB pieces (less likely to already have a body on them),
    2) by looking at the "time to crime", meaning the time between a gun's leaving an FFL to the time that it appeared at a crime scene, police and ATF could track down the straw purchasers who were supplying guns to criminals,
    3) violent criminals had strong preferences for .380 and 9mm handguns, and
    4) one third of guns used in violent crimes were purchased in Massachusetts (with the next state being Georgia at 8% of the total).
     
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  7. GunnyUSMC

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    Here's another update.
    Is anyone keeping a running tally?

    380 Auto
    (1) Bersa Thunder 380
    (1) Ruger LCP II

    9mm
    (3) S&W SD9VE
    (1) S&W SW9VE
    (1) S&W 5964
    (1) Glock 19 G4
    (2) Ruger LC9s
    (1) Ruger P95DC
    (1) Ruger 9E
    (1) Springfield XDM
    (1) Taurus G2c
    (1) Taurus PT24/7 Pro
    (1) FMK 9C1
    (1) SAR Arms SARB6P
    (1) Doubletap Derringer

    40 S&W
    (1) s&w M&P Shield
    (1) Glock 22
    (1) Sig P250
    (1) Taurus 740 Slim

    45 Auto
    (1) Sig 1911
     
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  8. Charlie Horse

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    That's not how it works, or
    Then we'd better stop writing traffic tickets... Seized property is converted for LE use ALL of the time.
     
  9. rdnktrkr

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    How does the Taurus g2c shoot? I've looked at them but never shot one.
     
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  10. GunnyUSMC

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    They are popular for two reasons. They are cheap and they work. I would say that they are a good buy for the money.
     
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  11. rdnktrkr

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    Local store had them for 189 otd, 164 after the rebate they offered, that was tempting.

    Looks like I missed the rebate, it ended 7/7
     
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  12. P5 Guy

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    S&W 5964? Aren't they kind of rare in general?
     
  13. GunnyUSMC

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    We do get some odd ones now and then.
     
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    I came real close to buying one as well, but I recently bought a Ruger P95. So my cheap gun budget was maxed out ;)
     
  15. total recoil

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    Gunny, by the time you inventory the guns used in crime, you probably know which were stolen gun. Can you add that factor into your statistics? Like in the last 23 guns reported, how many were stolen? Thanks
     
  16. GunnyUSMC

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    That would take a lot of work to look up each gun without the file and SN#. What I can do starting with the next batch is to mark each that is stolen on my list and mark them on the next update.
     
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    This made me wonder, Gunny, what was the oddest and/or least likely, maybe something that surprised you to see it come through?
     
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    Seeing which ones were stolen from now on would be great. Thanks. I have not been keeping track of any you post but it seems that there are always more 9MM than the others. Not surprising as that is cheap ammo and most likely caliber to be owned and therefore stolen as well.
     
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  19. GunnyUSMC

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    Five years ago we were getting more 40s, but in the last two years the 9mm has been top dog.
     
  20. Offhand McFlan

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    I wonder how many of those guns were used in self-defense shootings and confiscated pending an investigation. Perhaps in some cases the gun wasn't even part of the crime, just confiscated because of the circumstances...like perhaps a DUI arrest?
     
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  21. GunnyUSMC

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    That would be about 1%. Most have to do with drugs, shootings and felons.
    I did have one last year that a Felon used to defend his life when his drug dealer tried to rob him while he was trying to buy drugs.
     
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    Notice that most of these guns are fullsize autos...
     
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  23. GunnyUSMC

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    This is true and many of them have extended magazines. And some people thing that they are well armed with a five shot snub nose revolver as their EDC.
    10 years ago when a bad guy shot up a house at night we would find 8 to 10 cartridge cases. Now days we find 20 to 30 cartridge cases.
     
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  24. GunnyUSMC

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    Let’s stay on topic, I have five more months to finish out this year.
    This topic is not about arguing about what one should arm themselves with. It’s to give insight to what criminals are really carrying these days.
    Questions and a little off topic is ok, but let’s play nice.
     
  25. Jeb Stuart

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    I would be interested in where the actually get their guns. I have heard from friends and relatives etc. but I am guessing it would be hard to get the truth from a inmate.
     
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