Joe Demko
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Best for what? I've owned a couple and shot a bunch. There are plenty of other accurate, reliable handguns. Things like historical importance and being "sexy" may have some value to certain purchasers. They do not to me.
Things like historical importance and being "sexy" may have some value to certain purchasers. They do not to me.
“In short, I do not buy this whole "100 years of history" nonsense.”
Why not. The 1911’s made in 1912 (I think that 1912 was the first production year) share the same basic operating system as the ones made today. What has changed is the materials and the methods.
then we are dealing with specific designs manufactured by specific companies. Nobody but Glock ever made Glock 17's , you see. So, to make blanket statements about the 1911 without specifying just exactly whose 1911 seems pointless.
I disagree. If I cannot make a blanket statement about the merits of a design, then people have to be more specific when they tell me why it is so great. Since that never happens, I contend that my points are valid.
Short of one of the older Government issue models, none of the major 1911 makers would survive in any of those environments that you listed, at least not until you break it in with about 2-3,000 rounds. Take a Glock, Hk, or any of the other polymer pistols designed for a combat environment, and they will out shine the Kimbers, STIs, and Bears.
Browning's .45 automatic, Model of 1911 is the most purchased, issued, carried, copied, and yes, proven handgun design of the last 100 years.
If I have to go to battle in the wet, muddy, gritty, real world where I don't know when I will be able to detail strip and clean the firearm and my life is dependant on the readiness of my sidearm my first choice is a 1911. So is my second choice.
Short of one of the older Government issue models, none of the major 1911 makers would survive in any of those environments that you listed, at least not until you break it in with about 2-3,000 rounds.
.....is how I prefaced my statement.The 1911 as designed
Well see that's where you are wrong. You should read some of Patrick Sweeney's writings on the 1911, including his torture tests. The usual bury it in mud, run over them with a truck kind of thing. He had an Expensive Wilson and an inexpensive R.I.A. sail through with flying colors.
Funny I've owned 3 1911's, RIA, Para, S&W and have never seen a malfunction with any of them.
10 But man being stupid did not understand these new pistols and didst proceed to shoot themselves with the plastic pistol and with the trigger cocking pistols for lo their manual of arms required great intelligence which man had long since forsaken. Yet man continue to gloat over these new pistols blaming evil forces for the negligent discharges which they themselves had committed.
Torture test and torture demonstration is very different. One is vietcong style pulling your nails out, the other is american style using bad music.
Testing, should be a vigorous process. Not going out for a day, throwing it in mud, and running it over with a truck.
Seriously, what firearm made of metal stops working after being run over by a truck? I think 95% of firearm models can survive a tire or two.
Maybe one day consumer reports can do firearm testing hehe.