Robbins290
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With even .05 cents per round. and 100 rounds a week. that is a cost of $260 per year. Thats alot more training you could have in year by almost another 1500-2000 more rounds down range.
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Mowgli Terry
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Some of this stuff sounds like intense study reading gun rags in the bathroom. I am amazed that you folks do not reload. I'd suggest at least see what it would cost you to start reloading.I figure that my rounds may cost five cents each.. The suggestion is to investigate. There is a great selection of high performance bullets available. For the volume I shoot buying cartridges is simply out of the question. I cast my own bullets. Muzzle flip and recoil is rinky dink.
Oh, I reload. But many people don't.
Robbins290
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I used to. But do not have time for it. I only had a turret press which takes for ever to load a thousand rounds. I rather spend that time dry firing/training then doing live fire at the weekend
Mowgli Terry
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I would suggest looking at the Lee Classic Turret and/or a Dillon 550. You were trying to load volumes of rounds the hard way. I use both of these machines as we speak. Good stuff. Very nice avatar you have.
Robbins290
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I did look at those a few years ago. A friend of mine shoots way more then i do and he reloads all his own. He does comp shooting and need the tighter specs. But i got dizzy with all add ons and what to look for and order. No reloaders in the gun shops around are knowledgable enough to show me what to look for. I seen how fast the dillan 550 can spill out rounds.
JR24
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With two toddlers and being "Mr Mom" 6 days a week, the hours I find down in my basement on my reloading bench in the QUIET are almost as much fun as shooting at the range for me.
So I really like reloading even on my simple Lee single stage. Cleaning the cases post tumble is the only step I find onerous, but I do whichever stage (clean/prep, prime, load) I feel like any given day and with primed cases can pump 1000 out in ... Eh, carry the one ... About 3 hours. Though, I usually do one or two hundred at a go
So I really like reloading even on my simple Lee single stage. Cleaning the cases post tumble is the only step I find onerous, but I do whichever stage (clean/prep, prime, load) I feel like any given day and with primed cases can pump 1000 out in ... Eh, carry the one ... About 3 hours. Though, I usually do one or two hundred at a go
Mowgli Terry
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I'd suggest your checking out the Dillon Website. I have had great service calling Dillon. Most recently I had a failure with my twenty-five year old primer feed. Dillon replaced the entire unit on warranty. I prefer to take a little more time making sure powder charge as it should be. Also, I use a case gauge for my rounds. I suspect that many torn up guns have to do with the "slam blam thank you ma'am"school of reloading. You may be interested in some of the self-indexing presses in that line. There are some things on YouTube on Dillon's. "Ten Reasons not to buy a Dillon" is a hoot. Hope you can find something that works for you.
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I do, but I choose to reload ammo that is FAR more expensive than 9 or 40, generally revolver calibers and in the future 10mm. To me, using my time reloading 9 or 40 is not as good a cost savings as reloading .327 or .45 Colt, so I don't do it.
I understand saving $250 or more a year with 9 vs 40 if you shoot 100 rds a week, but I'd be lucky to shoot 100 rds of those a month, so for me it's not a big loss to shoot the 40 and even if I did shoot 100 rds a week of .40, it's not like I can't afford it. Others circumstances are different.
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Check out the Lee Breech Lock Pro Progressive, it's a progressive press that costs about $110 and has really good reviews. It's not a Dillon, but that doesn't mean it can't work and it's my next press that I intend to buy. I never intended to buy a press after I got the LCT, but being able to do 100 or 200 rds an hour on a progressive is hard to pass up.
Mowgli Terry
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The attractive part of the Dillon is the service and the longevity. Mine is twenty years old. To date I have had to replace only expendable plastic parts. Dillon's and RCBS's warranty is unbeatable.
It's a good thing to explore all alternatives. Lee makes good products. I find myself using more and more Lee gear for some of my projects. Also take a look at the Hornady press.
Remember, my cost had to do with my casting bullets. Also, look at the cost of all components. When reloading you will find cost less per round but shooting more. Right ,it does make a cost difference in caliber. Do your arithmetic.
It's a good thing to explore all alternatives. Lee makes good products. I find myself using more and more Lee gear for some of my projects. Also take a look at the Hornady press.
Remember, my cost had to do with my casting bullets. Also, look at the cost of all components. When reloading you will find cost less per round but shooting more. Right ,it does make a cost difference in caliber. Do your arithmetic.
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If one doesn't cast the cost of reloads goes way up.
JR24
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Huh, looking over my favorite bullet supplier (Rocky mountain reloading) .40 fmj costs as much as .45, and about .03 more than the 9mm I use.
Hm, yeah, still rather just load .45 for the same price.
Mowgli Terry
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Figure in the cost of lead or coated bullets when you do your arithmetic. Also check the cost of bulk jacked bullets. That allows you to get a better idea of cost. I use 4 grains of Bullseye in my 45 ACP. There are 7000 gains in a pound. I think that's 1750 cartridges. Figure the cost of powder and primers locally. This the way you figure cost. You find prices for a variety bullets at Widener's for a start. We are not comparing these cost to steel cased Berdan primed ammo from Vulnavia.
Mowgli Terry
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I'd say without disagreeing with anybody do some shopping in light of what your needs are. If you are looking for a jacketed HP bullets or target bullets, there will be different sets of figures. Depending on the firearm it may not be the best idea to eliminate cast, coated, or plated bullets. Since the last post, I casually loaded one hundred rounds of 45 ACP. I'll shoot most of these up Wednesday.
Addendum: I can load several rounds for less than $6.00 a hundred with my cast bullets. The point is well made that you can't do this with bought bullets. Get your own figures.
Addendum: I can load several rounds for less than $6.00 a hundred with my cast bullets. The point is well made that you can't do this with bought bullets. Get your own figures.
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