evan price
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In the many years and many miles I spent behind the wheel so far I havfe collected and paid my share of excessive speed permit fees...and been introduced to the nicest men by the side of the road!
To date, never been asked about guns in car. Even when I had one. That was before my state's (OHIO) CCW law which repealed the affirmative defense.
Since I got my legal in state CFL I have yet to be pulled over and tested attitudes.
However, if I was legal (And I don't mess with drugs or that silliness) and had a cased rifle or something in the back.. I Would say, "There is an unloaded rifle cased in the trunk."
Why prolong the agony beside the road? I have been able to get out of citations in municipalities that are legendary for writing citations, simply by being friendly, polite, and honest to the LEO beside the road. Every ticket I have gotten I have deserved. Much as I b*tch about them they were my fault.
If you remember ONE thing from this thread, let it be this:
Nearly every jurisdiction uses live video and audio recording equipment to detail the events at your stop. What would that tape of your interaction with that LEO look like played back to a jury, no matter how "right" you were, no matter how "wrong" you were? Come across like an @sshat and you will be treated like an @sshat.. no matter right or wrong.
Remember the Florida case, the Miami-Dade police Major Aaron Cambell that got pulled over by the Orange County deputies and wound up in a major fight by the side of the road? Turns out the deputies were not only wrong in asserting his license plate was blocked by the trailer hitch on his bumper, they had already been warned by a judge several times that this excuse was unacceptable.
To date, never been asked about guns in car. Even when I had one. That was before my state's (OHIO) CCW law which repealed the affirmative defense.
Since I got my legal in state CFL I have yet to be pulled over and tested attitudes.
However, if I was legal (And I don't mess with drugs or that silliness) and had a cased rifle or something in the back.. I Would say, "There is an unloaded rifle cased in the trunk."
Why prolong the agony beside the road? I have been able to get out of citations in municipalities that are legendary for writing citations, simply by being friendly, polite, and honest to the LEO beside the road. Every ticket I have gotten I have deserved. Much as I b*tch about them they were my fault.
If you remember ONE thing from this thread, let it be this:
Nearly every jurisdiction uses live video and audio recording equipment to detail the events at your stop. What would that tape of your interaction with that LEO look like played back to a jury, no matter how "right" you were, no matter how "wrong" you were? Come across like an @sshat and you will be treated like an @sshat.. no matter right or wrong.
Remember the Florida case, the Miami-Dade police Major Aaron Cambell that got pulled over by the Orange County deputies and wound up in a major fight by the side of the road? Turns out the deputies were not only wrong in asserting his license plate was blocked by the trailer hitch on his bumper, they had already been warned by a judge several times that this excuse was unacceptable.