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Has Obama won?

No, not by a long shot.

In fact, he may just be the best damned gun and ammunition salesman that this country has ever seen considering what he has done (albeit indirectly) in the last three months alone.
 
Yeah, I read this trend as a loss to the Democrats rather than a win. There are a lot more guns out there in private hands because of it.
 
There is no way he could have come up with a plan like this, he cant ad-lib when his teleprompter goes down, how would he come up with a plan to make the American people buy so much ammo and so many guns that there would not be enough to go around?

Side thought: If Congress/ the Senate or the President did announce plans to ban guns, or ammo or even make restrictions on firearms or ammo, how much worse would this situation be? That 45 dollar box or .243 might be gone before too long....
 
Obama only "wins" if we quit fighting back.

I see this entire run on guns and ammo as a knee jerk reaction from our own kind. Gun lovers are learning how supply and demand works. We have brought this on ourselves. I would have never in a million years believed that I could not get small pistol primers when I needed them. Some on here are VERY quick to point out that failure to plan is my fault. Maybe! but I have not had a problem in 35 years. SORRY ! if I didnt think a panic was coming. I blame part of this on proffiteers taking advantage of the panic. They might be good businessmen but they certainly didnt help gun owners.MHO
 
A year ago I would have told you that you were nuts for buying at that price, today I am telling you that your nuts for not buying it then, it is probably gone by now.
 
I'd say he's lost big time---read somewhere online that over 9 million guns have been sold since oct.

The ammo will come back in line--just be patient---all those new shooters need ammo for their new toys.
 
Seems about right. Local hardware store was $35 per 500 for everything except Remington Thunderbolts, at $20 per 500.
 
Assault rifle prices have been inflated since 1986 when the registry for them closed. I assume you are speaking of semi-automatic lookalike rifles, such as AR-15s and such. Please don't use the term "assault rifle" when referring to them. That is an anti term that plays into the fear people have of rifles that they don't understand and the media's over-sensationalizing of certain weapons to create irrational fear.
 
I don't think he's won at all, the fact that all those shelves are empty means that all those guns and ammo are now in the hands of the people.

It is getting better around here, I was in one of the larger local shops yesterday and they had about 10 ARs on the rack and plenty of ammo but no primers except 209s. 6 weeks ago they sold every AR they got within a couple hours of putting it in the rack, but had plenty of ammo and primers.
 
Eventually, the hysteria based on the fear that Obama will ban all guns, etc. will end.

Then normal supply and demand will resume. Right now, fear has ramped the "Demand" side of the system all out of reason or imagination. Thus high prices and scarcity.

RDF
 
On the contrary, Obama has done so much for gun and ammo sales he ought to be given a sales award by the gun and ammo industry. Prices will fall when supply catches up with demand.

The real danger is the reintroduction of some of the more draconian control measures such as "serial numbers" on bullets, ammo taxes, etc etc,
 
Eventually, the hysteria based on the fear that Obama will ban all guns, etc. will end.
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The concern is not, and never has been, that he will ban "all" guns. The concern is that he/Congress might restrict so-called "assault weapons" and impose draconian capacity limits a la California, and significantly hinder ammunition production via import restrictions or "microstamping" bottlenecks. Those ARE reasonable concerns.
 
The Democrats are the masters of unintended consequences. Almost everything they do has the exact opposite effect of their stated purpose. So no, Obama did not intend to stimulate the firearms industry to the point that demand overwhelmed supply. He wanted to limit the number of guns and ammunition in the USA, and (big surprise) he accomplished the exact opposite.
 
Think about it. 9 million guns sold. At $500 a gun, that's $4.5 billion in gun sales alone, not to mention probably the same amount in ammo, magazines, and accessories.

Obama hasn't won anything, though he may have accidentally planted the seeds of economic recovery through panic.
 
The concern is not, and never has been, that he will ban "all" guns.

Don't come up with rational statements like this....:D


I heard from a guy whose cousins, sisters, brothers girlfriend who was at a gun show who was told by a realllllly good source who read it on WND that they will register, steal and melt all firearms and kill your dog after microstamping it with a RFID tag with a GPS and put you in a FEMA death camp whilst instituting the New World Order which will all be enforced by UN troops from China who will strafe us from the air in black helicopters whilst re-possesing all of California as the government gave them eminent domain to support the dollar, and we won't be able to fight back as all out ammunition will have automatically expired due to primer failure.....So there.......:evil:


Did I leave anything out....?
 
I've noticed a small rebound in supply of firearms, but haven't noticed it with ammo yet.

Obama aside, a lot of dems remember what happened after AWB 1.0 passed, and a lot of them, other than the usual suspects, wont vote on an anti-gun bill for fear of losing their seat.

Did I leave anything out....?
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The kitten-stomping. But I think you got everything else...
 
Obama aside, a lot of dems remember what happened after AWB 1.0 passed, and a lot of them, other than the usual suspects, wont vote on an anti-gun bill for fear of losing their seat.
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I hope your right about that.
 
just to make sure no one will have these evil black rifles or the ammo to run them
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If his method of making this happen was by causing lots of other people to go buy them first, then no, even if it was a plan it didn't work.
 
Hello Sir!

we buy everything up and leave shelves bare just to make sure no one will have these evil black rifles or the ammo to run them
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This statement is contradictory Sir. If everything is being snatched up, then a LOT of people have recently aquired assault weapons and ammunition. So many so that manufactorors cant meet the demand.

Yes its true that both assault weapons and ammunition are getting hard to find, but thats not because they dont exist, its becuase they are already in the hads of another civilian. :)

If the demand for ammunition stays high, then the manufacturors will eventaly increase production to meet it.
 
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I remember when the first AWB came into being. I had a devil of a time getting primers and powder. Fortunately I stocked up then so I'm ok now. They do keep. I just rotate a 10k stock of each size.
 
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