M1 Carbine w/Softpoints vs. AR with your Favorite Ammo

[amd6547]

Well, in the AR world, a lot is made of the nebulous term "mil-spec"...
My Inland is Mil-Issue. Good luck getting any Mil-Issue semi auto in the future.

Age really has nothing to do with it, if it's functional. For a lot of years, I relied on a Model 11 semi auto riot gun. It worked perfectly, never jammed, unlike some of the newer 12's I read about. Made in the 1920's.

 

[CoalTrain49]

So that makes it a magical killing machine rather than what was 75 years ago state of the art and now a usable utilitarian tool?
Do these relics speak late at night of there many exploits overseas?
Nostalgia is fascinating and I do my share of enjoying it but in these gun discussions it borders on mental illness at times.

What's wrong with having a rifle that has some nostalgia that can double as a self defense firearm? I'm sure a lot of old duffers buy lever action rifles and keep them handy for intruders on their property. I have a steel framed 1911 gov't model pistol I use for that purpose myself. I wouldn't call that state of the art.

While we're on state of the art, .223 isn't exactly state of the art anymore either being 50 years old. That honor would probably have to go to the 264 USA cartridge that could be built with a polymer case. The Army really doesn't much care for it's 5.56 anymore and the only reason it's still around as a weapons system is sequestration. My guess is if they ever get their budgets back we will be seeing a 6.5 mm carbine pronto.

It's all relative. My M1 works just fine for me. Maybe you need state of the art, I don't know.

Moving on.

 

[X-Rap]

It's all relative isn't it. I have a number of former military weapons as well as some clones and they all work as well as originally advertised but that doesn't mean I will choose them over something that to me is more efficient and due to the inevitable progress of innovation, possibly better than its predecessor.
The only reason we don't see people waxing nostalgic on the 45-70 Springfield, 30-40 Krag, 03A3 is that all those who carried it are all dead with the exception of the 03.
All those weapons represent a milestone in development and are as functional today and to some extent can be seen in modern weapons but to say they are as good or even better than what is considered modern or state of the art today is disingenuous at best.

 

[CoalTrain49]

Modern, state of the art today, more efficient, innovative, better.

Any actual advantage here given the parameters described by the OP?

Will a 70 year old design work as well as a 52 year old design?

I don't see a lot of difference, but if you insist then I guess you need it.

 

[mavracer]

Any actual advantage here given the parameters described by the OP?

My guess is the actual advantage exists in an inverse ratio with the perceived advantage.

It's not really a hardware problem.

 

[Richard Head]

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I have both but i'd have to go with the ar. Mainly cuz I don't wanna junk the M1 up trying to accessorize it with light and dot sight.
That's why I used a Plainfield and not a USGI!

I put an Ultimak on my AO carbine and I hated it. It took away the carbines greatest attribute it's light weight. It just didn't feel right, I still have the Ultimak and I'll let it go for a good price if anyone's interested.