madmike
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Ads to say what? I could cough up a few $$. I'll even send it by PAYPAL, just because.
Zumbo: Gun rag writer trashes "Assault Weapons"
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Outlaws
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Careful with that statement. Remember Kerry went out duck hunting once. He must really care too then huh?
emitt1
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My $20.07 is standing by and waiting. Just give me the information, and I too would use Paypal just to stick it in their ear.
SM - Good Idea - Start A New Thread?
SM -
I think that's a great idea, if we can draft good impactful text in a reasoned manner that compels our brethren but does not send the wrong message to others or fence-sitters. Count me in, for plenty more than $20 if need be.
How about starting a separate thread to test the interest and see if someone can help draft the first cut?
Good thinkin, pards.
Michael
SM -
I think that's a great idea, if we can draft good impactful text in a reasoned manner that compels our brethren but does not send the wrong message to others or fence-sitters. Count me in, for plenty more than $20 if need be.
How about starting a separate thread to test the interest and see if someone can help draft the first cut?
Good thinkin, pards.
Michael
Thank you Tom for the well thought out response .
after hearing the show on sunday I was to say the least enraged.
I am very glad to see you rethought the matter, it kind of sucks you were tossed into this firestorm right before the show aired. after reading your post I will give guntalk a listen this weekend as I always do .
after hearing the show on sunday I was to say the least enraged.
I am very glad to see you rethought the matter, it kind of sucks you were tossed into this firestorm right before the show aired. after reading your post I will give guntalk a listen this weekend as I always do .
madmike
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Dispwned, maybe?
madmike
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Outlaws: Valid point on Kerry.
but Kerry never posed with an M4gery, and was quite happy to keep fancy doubles legal at the club.
but Kerry never posed with an M4gery, and was quite happy to keep fancy doubles legal at the club.
Hawk
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SM said:
I'm in.
sm
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bogie
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I have asked bogie to post a new thread : 20-07
I have to run and will not be back until late tonight.
I will not be able to log on or access PMs either...so save Oleg's bandwith and you folks work it out please.
bogie is more articulate than I, others that have PM-ed me can interact with bogie on my original thoughts.
Which can be tossed out the window for something better...
$20.07 - like I said, where do I send it?
Steve
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I have asked bogie to post a new thread : 20-07
I have to run and will not be back until late tonight.
I will not be able to log on or access PMs either...so save Oleg's bandwith and you folks work it out please.
bogie is more articulate than I, others that have PM-ed me can interact with bogie on my original thoughts.
Which can be tossed out the window for something better...
$20.07 - like I said, where do I send it?
Steve
Brian Dale
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I'm in.
Steve, are you willing to hold the dough? I've got my $20.07 ready. Might we also start a thread to work out the actual ad copy?
{Edited to add: I see that you've done it as I was typing. TNX.}
{I'll beg off participating this afternoon, though. I work tonight, and I'm about to grab a nap beforehand.}
flynlr, Welcome to The High Road!
Steve, are you willing to hold the dough? I've got my $20.07 ready. Might we also start a thread to work out the actual ad copy?
{Edited to add: I see that you've done it as I was typing. TNX.}
{I'll beg off participating this afternoon, though. I work tonight, and I'm about to grab a nap beforehand.}
flynlr, Welcome to The High Road!
Not to downplay the issue, but I just found this and think it amusing in a serious way.
http://blog.robballen.com/archive/2007/02/19/Jim-Zumbo-Staples-Stock-Clerk.aspx
http://blog.robballen.com/archive/2007/02/19/Jim-Zumbo-Staples-Stock-Clerk.aspx
Careful there!
The recipient of such funds will get the PayPal "fee" deducted from the total. PayPal would get "stuck" with ~3% of everything that is raised.
Speak with your dollars! Use Gear Pay!
I wouldn't mind helping with the wording -- Some ideas: Keep is to the point. No personal attacks. All shooters/hunters/collectors need to unite and fight the anti-gun lobby. Don't allow media hype/cosmetics/functionality of our firearms to splinter us. List of Groups to Support. List of groups to avoid supporting.
Mongo the Mutterer
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Thank you Striker. I was expecting an e-mail from them, but I guess you gave me the news early.
Way to go Cabelas!!!! One of my favorite vendors...
Way to go Cabelas!!!! One of my favorite vendors...
Gerber has not yet taken any action other than to say "Well...he did say he was sorry.."
I sent them this and I will post any reply I get, IF I get one.
Dear Sirs
Due to your failure to take a stand and remove Jim Zumbo from your list of sponsored sportsman I will no longer purchase any items that are among the Fiskars family of products. I will also endeavor to influence those within my sphere of contact to do the same. There are many other suppliers for me to chose from and even though I have enjoyed and respected many of the Fiskars company's products in the past, that all ends as of today. I can not support a company that would continue to sponsor any individual who would cause damage to the freedoms provided by the Constititution of The United States. I think you will find that I am not alone.
I sent them this and I will post any reply I get, IF I get one.
Dear Sirs
Due to your failure to take a stand and remove Jim Zumbo from your list of sponsored sportsman I will no longer purchase any items that are among the Fiskars family of products. I will also endeavor to influence those within my sphere of contact to do the same. There are many other suppliers for me to chose from and even though I have enjoyed and respected many of the Fiskars company's products in the past, that all ends as of today. I can not support a company that would continue to sponsor any individual who would cause damage to the freedoms provided by the Constititution of The United States. I think you will find that I am not alone.
bogie is the guy to lead on $20.07. He's qualified professionally as well as strongly commited to RKBA.
bogie
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Oh...
That's what he meant...
Actually, I think we need to take out an ad in Outdoor Life. I also think we need to get Oleg to do an image - think a composite of a target shooter, a hunter, a soldier, a home defender, all with evil black rifles. And interspersed among them, we're gonna have folks with Model 70s, trap shooters, Winchester 1894 .30-30 deer hunters, etc., etc...
I bet we can get a REAL good deal. Text needs to be that we all need to stand together in the face of the coming Democratic onslaught.
That's what he meant...
Actually, I think we need to take out an ad in Outdoor Life. I also think we need to get Oleg to do an image - think a composite of a target shooter, a hunter, a soldier, a home defender, all with evil black rifles. And interspersed among them, we're gonna have folks with Model 70s, trap shooters, Winchester 1894 .30-30 deer hunters, etc., etc...
I bet we can get a REAL good deal. Text needs to be that we all need to stand together in the face of the coming Democratic onslaught.
Brian Dale
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bogie, your image brought up thoughts of a caption along the lines of:
Gun banners want them all.
Black rifles are just a start.
Did I think that up, or is it already on one of Oleg's posters?
Gun banners want them all.
Black rifles are just a start.
Did I think that up, or is it already on one of Oleg's posters?
Cacique500
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Thank you Tom for the article on your website.
Guntoter
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Everybody familiar with the old phrase "One Aw Crap wipes out Ten 'Atta Boys"?
New catch phrase being seen on memos being sent to gunwriters everywhere:
"Whatever you do don't you Pull a Zumbo on us! If we get Zumbo'ed you are fired on the spot!'
"One "Zumbo" wipes out a career worth of 'Atta Boys."
New catch phrase being seen on memos being sent to gunwriters everywhere:
"Whatever you do don't you Pull a Zumbo on us! If we get Zumbo'ed you are fired on the spot!'
"One "Zumbo" wipes out a career worth of 'Atta Boys."
I listened to the MP3 of the show,from what I heard Mr.Gresham defended Zumbo (no honorific) at every opportunity. Spoke of shooters as "eating one of our own", and Zumbo certainly did not apologize for calling ar-15 owners terrorists. So who do I believe? The Zumbo that called for banning the ar-15,or the one that said he "had no idea"? The idea that he was exposed to hunting(and guns) wrote about hunting for over four decades and was ignorant enough to post what he did? That seems highly unlikely.
Now I question whether I should believe Mr.Gresham who "had no idea" why everyone was so angry with his buddy Zumbo; or the Mr. Gresham that today posts that he understands why everyone was so angry? Am I to believe that Mr.Gresham takes twenty-four hours to understand what everyone else understood immediately? I truly question why anyone should listen to these "experts" who know so much and understand so little.
TWBryan
Now I question whether I should believe Mr.Gresham who "had no idea" why everyone was so angry with his buddy Zumbo; or the Mr. Gresham that today posts that he understands why everyone was so angry? Am I to believe that Mr.Gresham takes twenty-four hours to understand what everyone else understood immediately? I truly question why anyone should listen to these "experts" who know so much and understand so little.
TWBryan
mpmarty
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Tom Gresham understands as much about us and how we feel about the second amendment as Paul Newman does about combat shooting when he plays a gun toting detective or cop in his old movies.
bogie
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I think that Tom was disappointed at Zumbo's actions, and was attempting, at the time, to be a gentleman.
As it is... The shooting sports has lost a great writer. He's not going to come back from it. Hunting has lost an advocate.
Fine. I just wish that it'd happened during the week, and someone had been able to get some damage control going before the 'blog had 3-400 comments... Much less 3-4,000...
As it is... The shooting sports has lost a great writer. He's not going to come back from it. Hunting has lost an advocate.
Fine. I just wish that it'd happened during the week, and someone had been able to get some damage control going before the 'blog had 3-400 comments... Much less 3-4,000...
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