Top Shot - Season 3

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I told my wife as soon as we started watching the first episode "I'll be you $50 that one of the women goes home first". She however agreed with me. I dunno why they can't find women that can shoot for this show. My wife who has all about about 200 rounds of combined experience with pistols, shotguns, and rifles can make a 75 yard shot from a free standing position with a scoped rem 700 all day long (I've seen her do it). She just shook her head when that girl was pouring rounds down range missing that target.

I can't say I'm sad to see her go...I was getting really sick of hearing how everything was so "badass".
 
I also thought it was odd that the two were referred to as "Homeland Security Agents" since that it's a real title. I assume it's because 1) Homeland Security won't allow them to identify the specific agency for some security reason or 2) they work for the Federal Protective Service which no one has ever heard of so the producers thought Homeland Security Agent sounded cooler. They referred to Jermaine from last season as a Homeland Security Agent and he was an embarrassment so maybe it's good they don't identify the specific agency!
 
I asked this in the thread the was shutdown. In the first episode they were shooting a Smith and Wesson 500 magnum revolver. I have zero experience with this gun or round. So, here is my question. Were the loads they were firing full-powered? I ask because the recoil didn't seem too bad. Or is the gun's design help keep the "kick" down?

I do not like the "don't try this at home warnings." I realize its very likely a lawyer's CYA statement. But I figure that this kind of show would be great if it gets more people involved in shooting. The more we have on our side the better.

I would like them to say something like: if you want to try this, please find professional guidance and follow all laws and regulations."

One more point. I would like to see women do better on this show. It would be nice to get more of them involved in our sports. After all, they make up more than half of the population.

I have an idea for another shooting show. They should have one were they get a bunch of professional shooters. Then assign a person with little or no shooting experince to each pro. The pro instructs and helps each rookie. Then the rookies compete against each other in various shooting competitions. Just an idea!
 
I see the warnings as being about the same as Sons of Guns' warnings. Considering 80% of red jacket's business is supposed to be converting various Saigas, and probably 80% of the people on the s12 forums HAVE converted saigas. . .
 
MAKster said:
I also thought it was odd that the two were referred to as "Homeland Security Agents" since that it's a real title. I assume it's because 1) Homeland Security won't allow them to identify the specific agency for some security reason or 2) they work for the Federal Protective Service which no one has ever heard of so the producers thought Homeland Security Agent sounded cooler. They referred to Jermaine from last season as a Homeland Security Agent and he was an embarrassment so maybe it's good they don't identify the specific agency!
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Jermaine wasn't an embarrassment, he was probably one of the best shooters there and in the best shape (bar george). He just made a mistake.
 
Cal-gun Fan said:
Jermaine wasn't an embarrassment, he was probably one of the best shooters there and in the best shape (bar george). He just made a mistake.
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He made the same stupid mistake TWICE, costing his team the win.

He was a BIG embarrassment.
 
the woman who is still there is a worthless shooter

and the red head is annoying as hell

hope they go home soon
 
Did they seriously put all the losers on red team?

Neither of those women were particularly good shots... but that was one hell of a brutal elimination contest for the first day!
 
Interesting challenge for elimination. Using a rifle where a shotgun would be king and more historically accurate didn't make much sense, but if marksmanship is the idea, then they did the right thing.

The woman who lost, obviously has never heard of trailing when shooting at a stationary target from a moving platform. Not saying I could make those shots, but I at least knew where she went wrong. Although, gimme a hummvee and a M-2 and we'll see what happens. :evil:

Kinda glad she lost, she reminded me of Steph from SoG. Annoying voice like nails on a chalkboard.

I'm silently rooting for Phil Morden, since he's from Michigan, too.
 
Finally got to watch the episode after DVRing it. Interesting challenges. Gotta say the competitors look a little weak this year, WAY too many missed shots. Kinda hoped the B'ham lady would make it a decent way kinda as a state pride thing, but she really was annoying. Was impressed with the two HS guys, they came off pretty cool in the first competition. Also liked the ex Navy Seal dude. He had some good inputs and performed well.

Robert
 
doesnt matter if all the losers are on the red team.....all the bad shots will be weeded out, no matter what team theyre on.

if you suck, youre going home eventually.

if red team loses the first few times, they will weed out the bad contestants and will start winning, then its blue teams turn to start losing and getting rid of bad players

in the end its still an individual competition
 
Given the diversity of the competitions, splitting the teams by the ability to shoot with a big revolver will only have a minor effect on the competition. A much bigger regulatory factor is the splitting by background, so that both teams have a mix of law enforcement/military/competitive/etc shooters.
 
^ agreed....good point you bring up about splitting them by background, that may actually make things more even
 
lizziedog1 said:
I do not like the "don't try this at home warnings." I realize its very likely a lawyer's CYA statement.
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You're likely right, but they need to cover themselves on multiple levels.

1. Not everyone has access to sugar glass bottles and you really don't want to encourage shooting at glass...especially if you're not good about cleaning it up...this would also apply to the plates they shoot at
2. Using explosives has all kind of liability...be it Tannerite or their igniting propane targets
3. I can just imagine the kind of jury rigged contraptions folks would use to hang up side down or zip line from

Were the loads they were firing full-powered? I ask because the recoil didn't seem too bad. Or is the gun's design help keep the "kick" down?
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They looked full powered to me. The liability of using reloads would make their insurance carrier go nuts.

The recoil of the S&W 500 isn't horrible...it comes with the built-in muzzlebreak. I think the advantage went to the folks shooting it in DA...I'll have to watch a rerun to check again
 
Doc Savage said:
Was impressed with the two HS guys, they came off pretty cool in the first competition. Also liked the ex Navy Seal dude.
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That's what I thought too. It must be cool to apply with a buddy and have both of you get selected to the final 16...they were both pretty good shooting the S&W 500 too

tkopp said:
Given the diversity of the competitions, splitting the teams by the ability to shoot with a big revolver will only have a minor effect on the competition. A much bigger regulatory factor is the splitting by background, so that both teams have a mix of law enforcement/military/competitive/etc shooters.
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This is what I see also. It should go a long way toward avoiding the clique problem from last season
 
When many of the people were shooting the 500S&W, the camera angle kept moving around and was even sped up so you never really got a good looking at the recoil. I think they were doing that the hide the problems some were having with the recoil. I also think the loads were light.
 
Any chance the rifles were deliberately sighted in such that they had to see impact and do a little Kentucky windage (especially on the last couple of stations)? That's the only thing I can come up with for why even marginally competent shooters would be repeatedly missing these large targets less than 100 yards out.
 
On top of the shooters missing a target at 100 yards, why, when they were missing, were their partners not using the spotters scope to actually, gasp, spot them and offer correction advice? that one guy on the blue team, last station, last target, was doing some sort of chicken dance as his partner was missing. I'm yelling at the dude to get on the scope and help out!

I think I get a little too involved in the competition myself.
 
I think it was the lack of instruction by the usual expert prior to the challenge...that would account for the inability of some to remember to insert the mag and use the spoting scope.

I think the show is trying to set the hook earlier in the series by having two full challenges and then the elimination on the first episode
 
I don't think they didn't get training time like we are used to. If you listened to the chick who went home, she mentioned that she did well at all 3 practices. Hummm, didn't get to see those. Could have been due to time limitations with 3 competitions in this episode.

Robert
 
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